An Interesting Concept

[leon]

Hi Guys.

Yep, I'm bored, and whilst just sitting here pondering, (Hi Paul) the thought came to me, what would the universe be like if Earth disappeared.

So it goes some thing like this, if the Earth was instantly swallowed up and vaporised what would be happening in this part of the Universe.

It is not that we have discovered any other life forms to date, so I expect it would be pretty quite around this area.

Leon

[Davros (Lauren)]

You mean like if they had to make room for an intergalactic bypass? I guess we could learn to like Vogon poetry.

[astroturf (Bryan)]

I've often thought about this
Since Mankind has created the concept of time & measuring it based on earthly events etc, If everything became vapourised ,the concept of time would therefore be irrelevent,
I wonder, assuming there are other life forms around the place, what their concept of time is & how they measure it
Keeps me awake at nite thinking

Bryan

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

Instantly vapourised. Gives a whole new meaning to Global Warming.
I have wondered if creatures like the Turtle, whose life span is capable of being double that of humans, perceive the passage of time differently, or do they not care much about it at all. Perhaps we could learn from the latter, and stop being ruled by the tick of a clock.


Bill

[h0ughy (David)]

just remember your towel

[mick pinner]

we have only created time scales to suit ourselves, it and we are totally irrelevant to the rest of the universe, l doubt the universe knows we exist as we have had no impact upon it.

[mark3d]

time is a concept and so are the terms hours minutes and seconds.. but they are all just to explain a natural phenomena that means there was a past, present and future. the difference between the birth of a star and death of the star - thats not made up

[sheeny (Al)]

"time is an illusion... lunchtime doubly so..." - Ford Prefect.

Since we haven't had much impact outside the planet, I expect the impact of the earth "vanishing" would be very little at all. After all "space is big... really big!"

As for different species perceiving time at different rates, it is a tantalising idea, that's been explored in many sci fi books (and probably shows). Terry Patchett explores it well in the Discworld books. It makes sense that a sloth would perceive time more slowly than a little bird like a robin, finch or a wren. But as to proving it... I don't know how to start...

Al.

[mick pinner]

l agree, time isn't made up, but we only perceive it in relation to ourselves.
what we conceive a minute, day or week to be has no relation to anything but ourselves.

[Kokatha man]

Perhaps time is best described as a way of articulating the dynamic nature of matter (not just life) - if we didn't exist I seriously doubt that the universe would fail to be - and please, don't reply with the "if a tree falls in the forest and no-one hears it....spiel!

Then again, if the more things change the more they stay the same....!?!

What the @#*% am I doing responding to this particular thread, with all the lights out and the pc screen burning into my eyeballs?!?

[gman (Grant)]

I think that the universe would notice that the earth was not there.
Changes in gravitational forces in our own solar system would be upset.

Although I think it would be something like a pimple on the bum of the universe.
Noticed briefly but heals rather quickly

[Kokatha man]

And Gman hits the send button 1 nanosecond after I have.....

[omnivorr]

..the startingpoint of studies, I think, has been the rate of heartbeat... there's a notion/observation that each creature on average has a similar number of heartbeats thru an average lifespan of that species.. ie, tortoise and hummingbird each have approximately same heartbeats per lifetime, but life at vastly different pace and longevity...

If earth disappeared.. there'd be far less junk radio/tv emmissions radiating from Sol's system..

Originally Posted by sheeny

"time is an illusion... lunchtime doubly so..." - Ford Prefect.

Since we haven't had much impact outside the planet, I expect the impact of the earth "vanishing" would be very little at all. After all "space is big... really big!"

As for different species perceiving time at different rates, it is a tantalising idea, that's been explored in many sci fi books (and probably shows). Terry Patchett explores it well in the Discworld books. It makes sense that a sloth would perceive time more slowly than a little bird like a robin, finch or a wren. But as to proving it... I don't know how to start...

Al.

[Kokatha man]

[quote=omnivorr;310563If earth disappeared.. there'd be far less junk radio/tv emmissions radiating from Sol's system..[/quote]

.....and (possibly) from this IIS thread....?!?

[omnivorr]

...boredom, under this perpetual dark grey corrugated iron igloo that is my local sky....
was hopin tonite it'd look like a country road sign, ..but no such luck
...mebe to morrow.. ..otherwise, just hangin around waitin for the postie

[skwinty (Steve)]

Originally Posted by gman

I think that the universe would notice that the earth was not there.
Changes in gravitational forces in our own solar system would be upset.

Although I think it would be something like a pimple on the bum of the universe.
Noticed briefly but heals rather quickly

I think that the effects of earth vaporising would have a localised impact on the solar system but not a universal effect as the mass/energy ratio would remain the same over the universe. The bits and pieces left over from the vaporisation dont dissappear they merely change state and position.
As for junk radio and tv they would dissappear completely as we are the only ones emitting such garbage.
I think that proof of intelligent life outside of earth is in the fact that this other intelligent life has avoided us completely
And as an outsider, that is what I think of the human race

[Kokatha man]

Originally Posted by skwinty

And as an outsider, that is what I think of the human race

So Steve, are you confessing to having gone from banging on people's doors trying to frighten them into buying a particularly paranoid, delusional fantasy; into one of these withdrawn disfunctionals putting the **%#$@ on the rest of us?!?

Cheeres, Darryl - ps everyone, Steve knows my caper!

[Ric]

Hi Leon, when I was first watching the animation of that naked eye gamma ray burst I wondered how many planets were probably vapourised within a few thousand light years or so and how many may have had life on them. I guess we'll never know now.

I suspect the same would apply if we were vapourised, no one would ever know except for second long faint flash in the sky in about seven billion years.

Cheers

[skwinty (Steve)]

Originally Posted by Kokatha man

So Steve, are you confessing to having gone from banging on people's doors trying to frighten them into buying a particularly paranoid, delusional fantasy; into one of these withdrawn disfunctionals putting the **%#$@ on the rest of us?!?

Cheeres, Darryl - ps everyone, Steve knows my caper!

Listen here Darryl
Just because your'e not paranoid , doesnt mean they are not watching you!
Or should I say we

[omnivorr]