Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Deep Space
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 07-12-2007, 04:07 PM
bkm2304's Avatar
bkm2304 (Richard Brown)
Heads Up!

bkm2304 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Glen William, NSW
Posts: 625
First Light Zenith Star 66 Petzval

Hello all,

After a long, long wait for the right part I finally hooked the scope up to my eq, found the pole (well close to it!) and started shooting. M42 was the first obvious place to start - although I usually christen my scopes on Alpha centauri which was too low.

Here is the first effort. I took 3 x 30sec images at prime focus of the Petzval with a Nikon 40D. Then stacked them in Registax - but it said the stack was only 2 - so who knows? I am pleased that;

a - I actually captured an image(!)
b - The tracking was pretty Ok

THere is much more to understand about the process, obviously. EG. when I convert my 1mb jpegs to bitmaps so Registax will read them, they blow out to 17mb! Should I collect them as another format from the camera?

Also, how on earth do I get a crisp focus? My camera is on the end of the scope and looking through the view finder renders a very dark field. I'm not sure when focus is best.

As some of you may know it's been a long time since I looked into a refraaa... refraaccc... refraccct... something without a mirror - and it's so SMALL!!!! So please help me if you can!!!
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (w-1.jpg)
114.0 KB116 views

Last edited by bkm2304; 07-12-2007 at 04:10 PM. Reason: more pic info supplied
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-12-2007, 05:05 PM
Dennis
Dazzled by the Cosmos.

Dennis is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 11,820
Welcome to the “dark side” of refractors and astro photography! It can be a roller coaster ride, but gee, its fun!

In terms of focusing, a quick and cheap solution is to use the Hartman Mask. Have a read of this article by 1ponders.

Cheers

Dennis
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Garyh's Avatar
Garyh
Amongst the stars

Garyh is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Glen Innes, N.S.W.
Posts: 2,888
Thats a good object for a start!
Get yourself a copy of Deepskystacker..(freeware) You can then shoot in RAW with your Nikon.
Besides what Dennis has mentioned above, you can make yourself up some diffraction spikes with some fishing line or thin wire. Just take test focus shots and check the spikes and refocus until they become one very thin line. Then you have good focus. Like the hartman mask if you are getting away from focus you will have a double spike and the closer you get they merge into each other till it is razor sharp!
cheers Gary
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-12-2007, 08:55 AM
dannat's Avatar
dannat (Daniel)
daniel

dannat is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Macedon shire, Australia
Posts: 3,427
Thats a pretty good shot I think for a first go, albeit a little blue.
Well done
I'm interested to see how you go as when I purchase a dslr I would like to attempt pics with my WO
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-12-2007, 11:13 PM
bkm2304's Avatar
bkm2304 (Richard Brown)
Heads Up!

bkm2304 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Glen William, NSW
Posts: 625
Thanks, lads. I'll get the Deep Sky Stacker and make a diffraction rig to get focus. I must say that the picture side of things is very rewarding - even after a night to actually achieve a result is very encouraging! I actually thought it would be more frustrating to get the whole thing going! I hope they aren't famous last words!!!!!

Richard
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Ric's Avatar
Ric
Support your local RFS

Ric is offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wamboin NSW
Posts: 12,405
Hi Richard, that's a good start, well done. Once you sort out the fine focussing you'll be on your way, a lot of good advice has already been given.

Looking forward to your next images.

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-12-2007, 04:55 PM
leon's Avatar
leon
Registered User

leon is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Warrnambool
Posts: 12,805
Good first image, Richard, keep at it mate, as it has been said, it is a learning cure, but isn't it fun.

Leon
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Terry B's Avatar
Terry B
Country living & viewing

Terry B is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Armidale
Posts: 2,790
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkm2304 View Post
Hello all,

After a long, long wait for the right part I finally hooked the scope up to my eq, found the pole (well close to it!) and started shooting. M42 was the first obvious place to start - although I usually christen my scopes on Alpha centauri which was too low.

Here is the first effort. I took 3 x 30sec images at prime focus of the Petzval with a Nikon 40D. Then stacked them in Registax - but it said the stack was only 2 - so who knows? I am pleased that;
Great start
Registax probably isn't the best to use for deep space.
Deepskystacker is good and free. I use Iris which is very powerful and free also. There are tutorials on the same site.
It's best not saving as jpeg as you can't use dark frames with jpeg. Use the raw file option to save. You end up with very big files.
After preprocessing a series of 9 frames with darks, flats, offsets etc from my canon 40D I had about 2 gig of intermediate files in the recycle bin.
Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23-12-2007, 11:35 AM
bkm2304's Avatar
bkm2304 (Richard Brown)
Heads Up!

bkm2304 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Glen William, NSW
Posts: 625
Smile

Two efforts from last night. 7 stacked images @ 30secs each with the 66mm Zenith Start Petzval, and a dark all washed through Deep Sky Stacker. Fiddled with the images in the processing part of DSS.
Compare to image in the first post in this thread. The learning curve is slow but improving. Any comments welcomed!

Richard
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (orion4-1.jpg)
108.6 KB35 views
Click for full-size image (orion.jpg)
65.7 KB29 views
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 23-12-2007, 02:33 PM
Alchemy (Clive)
Quietly watching

Alchemy is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Yarra Junction
Posts: 3,044
Given any comments are welcome,

great start as terry b said, theres some good advice given there, the longer exposures the more of them the better result you get.

i enjoyed having a look
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 03:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement