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03-06-2007, 05:49 PM
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The 'DRAGON MAN'
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Also, do you think this filter would work on not bloating stars when imaging DSO's.??
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03-06-2007, 06:00 PM
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I don't know Ken as I haven't done the job with the filter. Check with Chris (Omaroo)
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04-06-2007, 12:48 AM
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Yoo-Hoo Omaroo . . .
any results yet Chris?
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04-06-2007, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ballaratdragons
Yoo-Hoo Omaroo . . .
any results yet Chris?
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Hey there Ken - sorry - only just saw this resurrected post.
Well, to tell you the truth, I haven't tried any DSO stuff yet for two reasons. First, I haven't set up my 12" on a permanent mount yet so don't have a scope with accurate enough trackong to try DSO photography and secondly haven't modified the ToUcam for long exposure yet. I've got the bits and pieces - but not the time ATM.
Will get back when done though!
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04-06-2007, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaroo
Hey there Ken - sorry - only just saw this resurrected post.
Well, to tell you the truth, I haven't tried any DSO stuff yet for two reasons. First, I haven't set up my 12" on a permanent mount yet so don't have a scope with accurate enough trackong to try DSO photography and secondly haven't modified the ToUcam for long exposure yet. I've got the bits and pieces - but not the time ATM.
Will get back when done though! 
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OK, thanks Chris.
Ya never know, I might have my Toucam Lens filter in my adaptor by then.
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04-06-2007, 11:23 PM
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Done!!!
I have fitted the little IR filter from the standard lens into my Adaptor to test it on DSO's.
It is sitting outside in the Toucam waiting for the clouds to part so I can test it.
I even aligned the mount on Acrux which is behind cloud  just so it will be ready to go as soon as a sucker hole comes along
It probably isn't aligned, but who cares, I won't have time to align when a hole comes
I'll report when I see something.
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05-06-2007, 12:30 AM
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It's raining
Always another night just around the bend
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05-06-2007, 04:07 PM
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It's raining
Always another night just around the bend 
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05-06-2007, 06:20 PM
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On the offside how difficult is this long exposure modification to do? I was quiet impressed with the image you took Ken, I am thinking about geting a second toucam to try the mod. Does the mod stop you from using it for normal Planetary imaging?
Regards
Fahim
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05-06-2007, 07:40 PM
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Does the mod stop you from using it for normal Planetary imaging?
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Fahim
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Not the one I'm doing Fahim. There's a switch to select either long or normal exposure settings.
http://astro.ai-software.com/index.p...I/toucam2.html
Cheers
Chris
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05-06-2007, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by netwolf
On the offside how difficult is this long exposure modification to do? I was quiet impressed with the image you took Ken, I am thinking about geting a second toucam to try the mod. Does the mod stop you from using it for normal Planetary imaging?
Regards
Fahim
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Too hard for me to do, coz I can't do electronics.
Yep, you can do both . A switch changes it from Long Exp to normal Avi mode.
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05-06-2007, 09:14 PM
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Well, I had about 20 mins of clear sky and got to finally try the IR filter in the Toucam.
I am amazed at the difference with Stars!!! The stars are not as bloated as usual
But Galaxies look worse
Another thing I noticed with stars is that they are now showing up in their natural colours, not all white!!!
I am going to see if the sky clears again and get some more samples done. If it doesn't clear, I'll process what I've already got and show you the difference
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05-06-2007, 09:16 PM
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I'm not surprised the stars look better Ken. The ol' toucam is fairly sensitive to IR.
How do the galaxies look worse? Not as bright?
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05-06-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by [1ponders]
I'm not surprised the stars look better Ken. The ol' toucam is fairly sensitive to IR.
How do the galaxies look worse? Not as bright?
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Yep Paul, Galaxies are very washed out. Also won't focus whereas the stars around them are crisp and bright. I tried NGC4945 and M83 and both came out worse than I've ever imaged them.
I'll give it a little while longer but the sky isn't looking promising, the cloud is getting thicker!
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05-06-2007, 10:00 PM
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I'd hazard a guess at they are not looking bright simply because they are not getting all that IR. Looks like a new learning curve for you Ken
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05-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by [1ponders]
I'd hazard a guess at they are not looking bright simply because they are not getting all that IR. Looks like a new learning curve for you Ken 
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I'd say so too Paul (new learning curve).
Now I have to figure out how to get those nice Galaxies AND crisp IR filtered stars . . . hmmmm . .
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05-06-2007, 10:20 PM
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.....a job for HDR-stack?? (if I understood the other thread correctly  )
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05-06-2007, 10:24 PM
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.....a job for HDR-stack?? (if I understood the other thread correctly  )
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I'm thinking that too Eric  (if I can get the filter out easily  )
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05-06-2007, 10:35 PM
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Might be less of a hassle to get a second adapter.
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06-06-2007, 12:29 AM
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Ken did you do the Long exposure mod yourself, I am confused.
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