what does advertising say to you?

[xelasnave]

Girls in swim suits would be better.
alex

[mill (Martin)]

There is no difference between a Mac and a pc i think.
It is the same old dreaded story between intel and amd cpu's.
As long as they do what you want them to do for you then they are both good computers.
As always , when a computer or program gets very popular , then hackers WILL try to hack it will it be a mack or pc.

[fringe_dweller]

Alex were do we start mate - maybe ribena with its supposed vitamin C content

Dujon, i got into macs soley because my best mate was an apple tech/evangalist - so i never paid for much right from the start since then i have known several mac techs - and only one still is purely mac because theres nothing to do - not enough work in returns/repairs coz hardly anything goes wrong with 'em - one even became a full on PC tech as well just to find some work LOL, of which he found plenty of course, to do with PC's. do you realise that apple make their techs sit the exam every year whereas PC techs, once they have done the relevant course for a specific version, thats it done, for the rest of their lives!
I understand what your saying re RAM, in the bad ol days, its been many years since you had to buy their specific brand of memory (their is no apple memory anymore), and yes it was a ripoff, you could of used the equivalent PC memory as it turned out, but you would of voided your warranty if anything went wrong.
Macs have come a LOOOOOOONNNGGG way from then. they arent perfect, but please tell me about a large company that is perfect? and there has been some bad QC at times in recent years - it seems if someone has one bad experience with apple, and then they bad mouth them for the rest of their lives! do they do tht with MS stuff?
having said that, at the time when i first got into macs, the mac OS was light years ahead of windoze 98 and 2000 ect. The gap narrowed greatly with advent of SP2 XP, thats for sure, I use XP on my dell lappy, and its pretty damn good, but i had been a mac user for so long, i dont see why i should stop altogether?

Hi Dave, isnt that 'macs are pretty' another putdown thing I hear from PC evangalists, funny now you guys have the pretty looking vista sucked in bigtime LOL yeh maybe the budget models for schools and little kids are that way, whats wrong with not being a boring beige or black box? btw my dual chip G5 tower is actually SEXY and stately, and i wouldnt buy one of those silly looking monitors if you paid me ! hmmm i seem to remember you had a bad experience with an faulty ipod from memrory, is this the source of grudge?

[xelasnave]

I withdraw the girl idea as that is sexist but such a throw away line points to other serious faults in advertizing generally.
Yes how about Ribena I was most upset about that news as I used to insist my kids drank it ... They should be flogged mmm I need another list.
alex

[xelasnave]

The ribena people should be flogged not my kids.
alex

[Dujon]

fringe_dweller. I suspect that we understand each other. I have no particular allegiance when it comes to OSs other than keeping my current (expensive) software running. Perhaps I've locked myself in to MS by spending so much money . . . such is life.

Back to advertisements:

I always laugh when a certain battery producer creates ads comparing their alkaline product to that of a competitor's heavy duty units. It is simply stupid. You might as well compare a four cylinder normally aspirated motor vehicle with a fuel injected turbo-charged V8. To be honest I don't know how they get away with it.

[xelasnave]

John they get away with stuff because we let them... consumers have the power of choice sadly some simply take it.. and so the problem becomes worse. Ads are necessary no question but empires now exist built on stupidy of consumer apathy.. I make the choice every time I make a purchase..not that what I buy drives the economy but I feel a little better when I constantly exercise choice based on actually thinking prior to buying the crap we are fed. No one else has to follow my lead my point is simply I wont accept that I can be simply conned.
I found myself once saying at the end of a commercial for a country and western singer ..this guy is great... only to realise I had never actually heard him sing anything.. it can be that way.. but never again.
alex

[xelasnave]

The singer did not have a degree in western folk culture or music but one in marketing and business management ...Garth Brookes to name a name .. good one him capitalising one all his talents .He conned me good ...but like his music or not what a player
alex

[ving (David)]

Originally Posted by fringe_dweller

Hi Dave, isnt that 'macs are pretty' another putdown thing I hear from PC evangalists, funny now you guys have the pretty looking vista sucked in bigtime LOL yeh maybe the budget models for schools and little kids are that way, whats wrong with not being a boring beige or black box? btw my dual chip G5 tower is actually SEXY and stately, and i wouldnt buy one of those silly looking monitors if you paid me ! hmmm i seem to remember you had a bad experience with an faulty ipod from memrory, is this the source of grudge?

what? but they are pretty! we had imacs here at work and they looked great in orange and blue! and a collegue of mine has one of those laptop ones in orange, she love it!

sorry Kearn, just dangling a worm...

My daughter has the bad nano, it now gathers dust and she uses her new mobile with a 1gb micro SD card instead most of the time while her friend puts up with a faulty shuffle till she can get the same of a similar phone.

PCs need to be made to look sexy tho. my brother has done some case modding on his and it looks great! but that sort of thing is beyond my talent.

I had a girlfriend with a Mac once so I am not as against them as you might think... (I dumped her of course )

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by ving

PCs need to be made to look sexy tho. my brother has done some case modding on his and it looks great! but that sort of thing is beyond my talent.

I have a dozen or so computers in my Network and none of them have there cases, I take them off as standard to air cool them. My older ones probably don't need it as much as the faster newer ones, but I am a creature of habit and I take them all off.

As far as the thread is concerned, the advertising does zip for me. I like most people in business, purchase computer equipment on a need to basis, getting whatever is best suited to the task at hand whilst always mindful not to blow the budget out too much. It's horses for courses.

From a home users viewpoint, the choice becomes one to play around with, but in business when you have a very specific application (task), you need to match that with the most appropriate equipment available, taking into account issues like support, replacement parts and so on.

I doubt that fancy marketing impacts on any serious equipment purchasing at a corporate level. Most business will run whatever O/S is required to get the job done. Too much emphasis is placed on the O/S it is after all just the operating system, designed to interface between the equipment and the user, no more no less. Just my florin's worth

[fringe_dweller]

Originally Posted by ving

sorry Kearn, just dangling a worm...

well you know i'm always good for a bite David

no worries mate, it reminds me of when i worked in scotland many years ago for an englishman, and he remarked that he sometimes got the impression that some of locals didnt realise the war (between the scot's and english of course) was over some serious time ago

I was having a flashback to the '90's mac V PC flame wars possibly?, i guess there can finally be peace bewteen the platforms?

I dont like imacs or power books very much, not that theres anything wrong with them - just like the grunty towers for me (altho i like the new grunty intel chip power books, very powerful!) still kicks ass when scanning a film print at 2400 dpi, working with a 1 Gb file in layers

funny but to go back to your original question with the ad, doesnt the pc guy look like a heavier, befuddled Bill Gates? and the other one is a young Steve jobs? hmmm

[fringe_dweller]

Originally Posted by Dujon

fringe_dweller. I suspect that we understand each other.

we are all creatures of habit i guess John