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Old 26-11-2006, 10:13 AM
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Color image M42 my first

Even though I am planning to mainly image with Luminance until I get more of an understanding how this ccd stuff works.

I couldn't resist trying out my color filters for the first time on this easy target.

I'm telling you this is whole lot of work. this image took 4 times longer then it would have with a DSLR....and a hell of alot more processing.
Data was collected over 4 brief sessions then you have to somehow combine all your data and hope it looks ok...hehehe

Flats, Bias and Dark frame calibrated with each channel

Not as sharp as I would have liked but its not easy imaging at 2500mm F10..well for me anyway.

LRGB 50:40:40:40 all 2x2 binning
5 minute exposures autoguided with internal guide chip.

I'm happy that I could atleast complete the image and it looks like the orion but not that thrilled for the amount of time I put into it.

Looks like I have plenty to work on....I have to keep reminding myself just small step Tony...lol

Scope 10"LX200R with STL11000 on G11
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Old 26-11-2006, 10:24 AM
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Hey that is really spectacular, love the contrast in the cloudy bits. I dont really know much about astro photos but that is very impressive
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Old 26-11-2006, 10:30 AM
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Whoa Tony!
I have to agree with Stephen, that is one impressive image for a first time colour.

What are your images going to be like with some practice?
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Old 26-11-2006, 10:37 AM
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great stuff and the STL-11000m keeps you on your toes. It is worth everything you put into it. It will only get beter and beter as time goes on.
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Old 26-11-2006, 10:48 AM
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Tony,
it's definitely progress and the camera picks up nice nebulosity without a burn out of the core.

what do you make of the small dark/"negative"(?) stars in the nebulosity?? see mid height left of center of the shot and towards the bottom

odd

then again with your setup, it wouldn't surprise me that you've managed to image dark energy
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Old 26-11-2006, 11:19 AM
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Fabulous start Tony Looks like many long lonely nights coming up
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Old 26-11-2006, 11:25 AM
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Great Start Tony.
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Old 26-11-2006, 12:01 PM
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M42

Hi Tony,
Very good, and thats a mighty setup you have there, The LX200R and that Camera the 11000 is top of the range, if thats your first picture of M42 with that setup, you will be up with the Pros. soon, I might suggest an F-3.3 Focal reducer (not expensive for SCTs) and then you would get the whole M42 in, but the setup you have now would be fantastic for ngc-1365 at a good position now for early evening imaging (although theres a moon waxing), anyway that Camera is as good as they come, so wishing you all the best.

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Old 26-11-2006, 01:06 PM
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Man lots of focal length, definitely adds to the difficulty.

Great image given the steep learning curve. I know you'll master it in time.

Try that with your 8" dob
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Old 26-11-2006, 01:42 PM
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Hi Tony, what a beauty, lots of fine nebulosity, detail and great colour.

a great image
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Old 26-11-2006, 01:45 PM
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well, lets see, how long would you have taken if you still had the 350D modded cooled camera? but would it have been as nice?
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Old 26-11-2006, 01:54 PM
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Thanks Guys,

Frank..I would say its more bad processing then anything

Jim,

yes the STL is a nice camera but it's far from top of the range...probably closer to bottom of the range specialy in QE sensativity...your paying more for the size of the chip being 35mm format

Regarding a focal reducer..its not that easy...if I used the Meade 6.3 fr I would loose more then half the image due to severe vignetting the 3.3 would be unuseable for these chips.

I tried the Lumicon FR which has a 80mm focal reducer at F7 last night....thats about as good as it gets in large format focal reducers and with that I still lost a lot FOV...below is a pic of the fov I lose with an 80mm Diameter FR..imagine what would be lost using a Meade 48mm fr.
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Old 26-11-2006, 02:04 PM
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Tony that's a great start mate !
It's not as easy as it looks especially when we're used to using DSLR's.

Anyway mate it won't be long before you'll be churning out stunners for the SBig and Meade catalogues again.

Well done
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Old 26-11-2006, 02:13 PM
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Thanks Andrew Houghy Ric Mike Paul Stephan John and Phil and everyone else I may have missed....lol

Even though there is detail in this image I can't see with my M42 DSLR image.....The DSLR image is not far behind it and was much easier to take.
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Old 26-11-2006, 02:22 PM
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Hi Tony

You're off to a flying start and with the permanent set up in the observatory, you'll soon master the work flow process and there will be no looking back. Great 1st light image, especially at 2.5 metres.

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for a first colour image that's a great start...keep 'em coming, its great to vicariously travel with you as you journey along this particular learning curve
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Old 26-11-2006, 07:52 PM
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tony, wonderful texture. I really really love it!
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Old 26-11-2006, 09:38 PM
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Nice colours. Just like Ken describes he sees them in his 12" (but I don't ).
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Old 27-11-2006, 10:21 AM
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Hi Tony,
Yes I should have realized the chip was that big, and a problem getting a wide FOV from SCTs, I have the same problem with my LX200-10" and the Canon EOS300D (smaller chip than your Camera) no focal reducer works that I have tried, im looking into the "William Optics" 0.8 Focal reducer made for their 66mm refractors to see if this is of any use on the SCT, seems you are in the same situation as I am, The SCT at prime focus only, and the ED80 or Lenses for the rest, The Meade/Celestron F-6.3 reducer works with the ED80 (some coma at the edges but not bad).
I would really like to see what you can do with Galaxy ngc-1365 and that setup, ive tried a prime focus using the LX200 + Canon but the noise beat me for a good picture, that ST-11000 should shine at this task.

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Old 27-11-2006, 02:37 PM
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Nice job Tony, lots of detail there!!, your on your way with the learning!!!
Just curious are those little black spots from hot pixels?
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