Go Back   IceInSpace > General Astronomy > General Chat
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #41  
Old 30-07-2025, 01:09 PM
Peter Ward's Avatar
Peter Ward
Galaxy hitchhiking guide

Peter Ward is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Shire
Posts: 8,483
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorW View Post
Lets get some help from the US and NZ- .....

Yep.

Reads a bit like a Bledisloe Cup score count. NZ 64 AUS nil

The vision of launch was rather disappointing....looked like they were behind a tree line miles away. Hopefully they had multiple cameras in situ plus telemetry to know where it all went wrong....
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 30-07-2025, 01:21 PM
Startrek (Martin)
Registered User

Startrek is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Sydney and South Coast NSW
Posts: 6,689
I’d like to gives these Gilmore brothers a wrap , at least they are having a crack
Today’s failure was half expected

This hybrid technology has a long way to go to be reliable and cost effective and provide the performance required to hit orbit each time.

They’ve only been in serious rocket development for the past 9 years or so where’s the Kiwis at Rocketlab have been in development for nearly 20 years with substantially more capital behind them.

The next 2 or 3 years could be make or break for Gilmore as money and support dries up quickly.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 30-07-2025, 03:43 PM
Stefan Buda
Registered User

Stefan Buda is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 983
Ok, but why the silly secrecy? They don't inspire confidence.
Rocketlab had shown off some serious tech development long before their first launch attempt.
One has to ask the question why hybrid, when no one else launched anything to orbit using such engines. No need to be an engineer to think that maybe there is good reason for that.
Nine years of rocket development? How do we know? All they have shown us are two engine firings, one of which ended in an explosion and the other one, a biprop engine that didn't seem to produce Mach diamonds, the burn looked so instable.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 30-07-2025, 07:06 PM
pmrid's Avatar
pmrid (Peter)
Ageing badly.

pmrid is offline
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Cloudy, light-polluted Bribie Is.
Posts: 3,762
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorW View Post
Lets get some help from the US and NZ-
To be fair, even RocketLab's early launches were fizzers. Similarly with SpaceX. I think even Blue Horzon, and the JSA and Indian rocket developments were initial fails.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 30-07-2025, 08:28 PM
Stefan Buda
Registered User

Stefan Buda is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 983
I don't think it is fair to compare Eris to the Electron rocket. The Electron is propelled by innovative high tech engines while Eris was not. The first launch of Electron almost reached orbit when telemetry was lost.

My guess is that the Gilmore brothers made a mistake thinking that they can reach orbit on a shoestring budget. Sad because I can't see how they can recover from this.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 30-07-2025, 09:09 PM
SB (Chris)
Registered User

SB is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW
Posts: 291
I watched the launch from Bowen. Heartbreaking to watch the crash due to an engine failure. Incredible noise on take off and of course the shockwave on crash!

Good on Gilmour Space for giving it a go. Learn and go again. It’s entrepreneurs like Gilmour Space that can help this country get ahead.

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 30-07-2025, 10:37 PM
DarkArts
Klaatu barada nikto

DarkArts is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 679
Definitely an Aussie rocket: couldn't wait to lay down on the job.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorW View Post
Lets get some help from the US and NZ-
I'd rather keep as much of the intellectual property in Australia as possible. Space could end up being as restricted as Defence with respect to IP transfer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan Buda
Electron is propelled by innovative high tech engines while Eris was not ...
The hybrid motor concept may be old but it has advantages, including lower costs and fewer hazards. That sounds like a good place to start even if the company changes direction later. Give them time, though. I'm happy for them to focus on keeping costs down.

Apologies for stating the bleeding obvious, but the space industry is going to be huge. It's starting to go through a massive growth phase but will eventually become a game of margins like air travel today, though with elements like tailored service, sovereign control and responsiveness also potentially being important, especially in regard to national security.

Anyway, that's my 2c worth.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old Yesterday, 09:01 AM
Startrek (Martin)
Registered User

Startrek is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Sydney and South Coast NSW
Posts: 6,689
Scott Manley posted an excellent preliminary review of the launch with plenty of positive feedback for Gilmore Space.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ha...UEEgJlbg%3D%3D
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old Yesterday, 04:22 PM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,283
NZ space agency was founded two years ahead of Australia’s, our Govt gave Gilmore $5million, maybe a bit more financial aid would help
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 08:13 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement