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Old 30-06-2025, 10:02 PM
rae (Rae)
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ioptron skyguider pro

Hi, inquiring about anyone using the skyguider pro and any tips for use. Finding SCP is the most difficult part but have tried using a compass with some success. Have been using a nikon d5600 with a 35mm 1.8 lens and have taken some good pictures. Appreciate any tips or chat with someone else using one. Regards Rae
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Old 01-07-2025, 12:17 PM
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Sorry Rae I don't have that mount (I have an Astro Trac) but your mention of using a compass to find south, maybe if you instead find true south you'll be closer. Currently somewhere close to Midday (a few minutes past), and advances 13 seconds every day from memory, there are charts available for regions.
Worth trying for more accurate alignment.
There are many mentions of solar noon here on the forum and a gentleman called Startrek (Martin) has put some very good information up.
The more accurate the polar alignment the longer exposures you can obtain without drift.


Here's a link:


https://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/...ght=solar+noon

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Old 02-07-2025, 08:51 AM
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I have one and after some mods it's fantastic. My copy tracks so accurately that I consider it a mount rather than a camera tracker. It carrries my DSLRs, 60 and 76mm refractors and even the C6. I use it for visual as well as AP. I like to polar-align it properly for (unguided) deepsky shooting, for which I use Sharpcap's polar-align routine and a guide scope. I plan to run my 6D on Sharpcap to eliminate the extra optic (so that method might work for you too if you have a laptop). Alternatively, the solar noon method (if you're shooting from home) combined with accurate-ish altitude setting (for example with the help of an inclinometer app on your phone) will get you fairly well aligned as Leo says. In the field, under dark skies, being able to locate the SCP with binoculars or perhaps even the SGP's own little polar scope (that I haven't tried myself yet) is a skill worth having.

Apart from some minor niggles like how the clutch works, how the payload/counterweight bracket attaches, and the way it won't tell you how much battery charge(ing) you have left (to do), the stock version of the SGP had 2 bigger issues that drove me nuts and which I've since fixed. I felt they were critical for accurately pointing the polar axis and then the optic itself, i.e. actually using the thing as intended: the polar wedge and the declination 'axis'. I replaced the wedge with the Wiliam Optics version and the Dec axis with an AliExpress sourced geared pan head using ArcaSwiss standard dovetails. It is so much better now.

Note - I also got the WO Dec 'adaptor' initially, thinking it would be a similar level of improvement to their polar wedge. It's not. It's as infuriating to operate as the original. So either make do with the original Declination 'thingy', or get a geared or otherwise smoothly moveable and lockable panoramic head. I have to qualify this part by stating that I rarely use ball heads under the camera itself, so I need the Dec axis to move smoothly and predictably. A good ball head partly solves this issue too.

Can't comment on guiding, which is in RA only.

Having said all that, the mount will still work stock-standard - especially at the speeds and focal lengths you mention - but the more you use it, the longer the optics and the closer you want to get to exhausting the SGP's potential, the more you'll appreciate smoother and more accurate pointing.

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Old 02-07-2025, 01:29 PM
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I'm not familiar with your system, as stated I have an Astro-Trac. What I did find trying to use the unit with 2 ball heads is it's near impossible to set the latitude on a ball head. Instead I was lucky enough to have a friend selling a studio gear head with 25Kg payload capacity and bought it from him cheap. For the primary camera mount I'm using a heavy duty ballhead also rated at 25Kg.
I have fitted a Polemaster adapter I machined to my Astro-Trac but haven't had the chance to play properly, just once and I messed it right up because of my unfamiliarity with a few pieces of the equipment (all of it basically) but it eventually will serve me well I'm hoping.
Start with a reasonably level area, I was playing in my sloped back yard and it caused all sorts of issues because I levelled the gear head not the tripod which meant after any rotation it was no longer level, stupid old man mistake, it won't happen again.
With my load capacity with good alignment I should be able to shoot with my Megrez 80mm scope. The Astro-Trac only gives 2 hours of driven tracking before it has to be reset but that's a lot more than I currently have, 30 odd seconds without tracking. I'm hoping eventually for some good results.


https://backcountrygallery.com/astro...nitial-review/


Not so much a head as per your device but they are supposed to work well.
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Old Yesterday, 05:46 AM
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Hi Rae,

Does your SkyGuider not have a polarscope built in (I thought they all had this as of a few years back). With this you can simply use the Ioptron app 'iPolar' (Windows and MacOS) and get everything polar aligned very easily. Usually takes me 5 minutes or so.

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Old Yesterday, 07:46 AM
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Hi Jon, I didn't know that, must try that out. Yes the SGP has a built-in polar scope, and a pretty nice one too. How does the app know where the RA axis is pointed? Do you just hold the camera to the eyepiece of the polarscope?

Edit: to be clear, the SGP has a visual-only polar scope, not the Ipolar camera assembly that can be fitted to/comes with bigger iOptron mounts.

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Old Yesterday, 02:30 PM
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ah, my apologies everyone. Looking at the iOptron website I see that I must have the version #3550A with the electronic polarscope already fitted. This has a small camera behind the polarscope which makes polar alignment 'simple and fast' to quote their manual.

I would imagine that trying to do that visually on the SCP would be a major PITA...

The good news (although $$$ would be involved) is that you can upgrade the SGP to use the electronic device. See https://astrobackyard.com/ioptron-ipolar-skyguider-pro/ for example.

I also concur that the WO wedge is a major improvement and helps to remove much of the frustration around aligning the SGP.
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