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12-10-2022, 12:42 PM
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800mm focal length refractor
Can any one recommend a suitable refractor for solar work.
Needs a focal length around 800 - 850mm
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16-10-2022, 06:45 PM
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Hmmmm
No suggestions, no recommendations???
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16-10-2022, 10:41 PM
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Does it need to be ED/apo? Is 900mm too long? (thinking ED100 f/9)
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17-10-2022, 02:24 AM
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Just needs to be a good achromatic.....
900mm focal length would be too long, say 850mm max.
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17-10-2022, 05:28 PM
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hmmm there really aren't many refractors around 800-850mm!
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17-10-2022, 06:01 PM
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Try one of Rubinars.. after glass relaxation, my Macro 10/1000 is diffraction limited.
Ops.. I had a look at ebay, prices went up 5-fold from times I bought mine (from rugift.com)
I also have this one.. not bad as a visual telescope, not too many CA.
When Sun is up, atmospheric turbulence will be a dominant problem anyway.
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17-10-2022, 06:16 PM
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Bojan,
Looks much longer focal length than what I need.
850mm is around the max.
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17-10-2022, 07:14 PM
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Opteka (MZ-5000) has adjustable FL, 650-1300 mm.
Rubinars 8/500 would be good.. sometimes they appear on ebay for less.
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28-10-2022, 12:06 PM
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It has a dovetail-bar, for placement onto other mounts, but no tube-rings, and rings for this one would be virtually impossible to find online...
EDIT: http://www.saxonoptics.com/products/...roductid=10011
...however pipe-clamps served for this "de-forked" 50/600, at f/12...
...a bit of DIY.
Only a safe solar-filter can be attached, at front over the aperture; no Herschel wedge or other, as the telescope is plasticky. Achromatic refractors from 40mm to 76mm were once of all-metal, the focusser and the doublet's lens-cell in particular.
Last edited by Eldest_Sibling; 28-10-2022 at 12:39 PM.
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28-10-2022, 12:30 PM
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Alan,
Thanks, but I think the costs to ship from the US to Australia would far exceed what the scope is worth.
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28-10-2022, 12:32 PM
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Ken,
Probably a silly question but does the scope need a native focal length of 800mm or could you use a shorter/longer one with some kind of focal extender/reducer?
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28-10-2022, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin66
Alan,
Thanks, but I think the costs to ship from the US to Australia would far exceed what the scope is worth.
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I've edited my post, and with the Saxon equivalent.
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28-10-2022, 01:14 PM
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Morton,
Not a silly question.
Using a Barlow, they have limited backfocus spacing which can put the optics close to the prime focus. Not a good situation when working without filters Solar imaging with larger apertures.
I’m looking at the x0.75 GSO reducer (to use with a 1000mm refractor) - it has a working back focus of 80mm .
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28-10-2022, 01:27 PM
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If the Saxon 608 seems viable, I cannot find the model among the three vendors I searched. It may be discontinued, or available as a special order.
Oh, I almost forgot: my own 4" refractor has an 820mm focal-length.
Last edited by Eldest_Sibling; 28-10-2022 at 01:41 PM.
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28-10-2022, 01:45 PM
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Bresser makes some of that scale
also nat geo?
I know they are cheap but they are an achro of that focal length
Or something like this? it's 714mm or is that too short?
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17-11-2022, 06:08 PM
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Hi Ken,
I see that the Scopetech 80mm lens are now available from FLO.
The 80mm f10 lens works out to approx $210 AUD inc postage.
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/sco...-and-cell.html
Andy
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17-11-2022, 06:17 PM
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Andy,
Appreciate, but I need a bit more aperture.
A 120mm with a focal length of 900mm (not necessarily an ED version) would be ideal.
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18-11-2022, 01:24 PM
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Looks good what about price?
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18-11-2022, 04:20 PM
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Occasionally, there is Vixen 140mm SS in the classifieds. Its focal length is exactly 800mm. The going price seems to be a little over a $1,000 ($1200 to $1,400).
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