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Old 21-03-2005, 04:55 PM
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Jupiter 19 March

Well here is two shots that I really think are the best images. Seeing was near perfect, but focus was the real issue this time. Maybe next time.

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Old 21-03-2005, 04:56 PM
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Paul.....why didn't you get rid of the dust.......otherwise it looks good.
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Old 21-03-2005, 04:56 PM
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And the other with some noise filtered out. I can't decide which I like more. What do you think.
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Old 21-03-2005, 04:58 PM
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Sorry Tony, I don't know how to do the clone thing in PS. Got any tips. I have in the past only used the rubber stamp and cloned that way. Is there a better way?
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Old 21-03-2005, 05:02 PM
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For those interested I did not touch the colour except to reduce the blue spectrum down. I did not enhance any colours at all. This is how it came out of the toucam.
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Old 21-03-2005, 05:06 PM
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No need to say sorry......the image looks great.
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Old 21-03-2005, 05:20 PM
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How did you do that Tony?
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Old 21-03-2005, 09:30 PM
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You're starting to get some good detail Paul! Well Done.
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Old 23-03-2005, 10:26 AM
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Here is one I took at 320 x 280 scale is smaller but much nicer shot.
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Old 23-03-2005, 11:05 AM
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That is a really nice shot! Well done!
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Old 23-03-2005, 11:11 AM
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Are these with or without your IR filter Paul?
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Old 23-03-2005, 01:23 PM
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Andrew these are without the filter. Very still seeing and collimation as close as I can get it. Meaning trying to get the airy disk even all the way round a medium mag star. Collimation is perfect for deep sky stuff and observing, just need it near perfect to get that extra definition with a SCT. Saturation set to 50%, not too high, that way you get the natural colours. No colour manipulation except to drop the blue down a little.

I always shoot at f30 too. That is why seeing and collimation are critical. At f30 with a 3x barlow (tv) the seeing has to be very good. Image scale is critical to get the barges and festoons. I can produce the smaller scale stuff all the time, just want to get the same image scale as Bird and the same definition. That is what I am working on now.

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Old 23-03-2005, 02:06 PM
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Yeah I found that last night with the saturation - on the QC I had it up around 75% but needed to drop it down on the Toucam to reduce the over rich red washout look on Jupiter. I hear ya brother re: large image scale

I think the key to trying to get up towards Bird's level of definition for us with USB cameras using the gear we have already is preventing compression as much as possible -> using low fps, making sure captureing laptop/pc is in good health etc (defrag, minimal software installed etc) and also possibly temp control of the primary mirror/OTA would play a big part. Besides scope maintenance (tracking, collimation etc) I think thats about as much as we can do without buying new gear ..
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Old 23-03-2005, 02:42 PM
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Yeah like Bird said to me, getting to know the limitations of your scope and getting around them is half the battle. With collimation you start second guessing yourself and wonder if it is just right or not. I need a really clear night to get it just so. Hoping tonight will be good. I think I might go back to 5fps as most of my shots are taken at 10. this leads to loss of quality with the compression. So now the wait is on. Don't want to sell my scope because it is a good imaging platform. Great for deep sky stuff and now that it is fully rigged for it I need a couple of moonless nights to test the alignment and do some shots on the D70.

The learning curve for digital is very steep.
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Old 23-03-2005, 04:41 PM
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Nice jupiter images!

If you can control the thermal problems in and around the scope, then I'm sure you'll be on track to getting great images. If there are thermal problems then no amount of collimation, tracking etc will help.

Only when you're in thermal equilibrium can you really benefit from those other things. I spent the best part of 10 years living here in Canberra and suffering from severe thermal problems the whole time before I figured it out.

p.s. I've updated my website, drop by and have a look. feedback welcome.

www.acquerra.com.au/personal/bird/astronomy

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Old 23-03-2005, 04:51 PM
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nice one paul
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Old 23-03-2005, 05:52 PM
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Yep, I've been thinking the same recently Paul, if I did this over again I'd get just a SCT OTA + eq mount but I've come too far to now... I plan to start on my temp control project in the next week or so - if all goes to plan should be able to cool inside OTA (similar to Bird's setup - pelt.) + when in action barely warm the corrector enough to keep the dew away while trying to avoid tube currents..all managed by the laptop/PC

Nice Mars work there Bird, even with a Toucam! I reckon you could get a lil' bit of detail of Uranus on a good night (even if only as much as that as you got from Ganymede...:compute r: )
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Old 23-03-2005, 06:36 PM
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Nice Paul...and you got a moon and shadow as well...looks great.
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Old 23-03-2005, 06:39 PM
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lol..cant wait till you get into imaging Tony
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Old 23-03-2005, 06:55 PM
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Well finally reprocessed the best avi. I think that this is so much better than previous attempts. Not as much detail, but does not look over processed.

Am I just dreaming or is this actually better than the previous attempts?
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