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Old 08-05-2016, 10:03 PM
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Trifid in Ha

It's been a few months since I imaged so thought I'd do a quickie on the trifid to test out my ota upgrades

I will be adding O3 and SII for a tricolor

This is 4 x 20 mins 5nm astrodon Ha

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http://www.astrobin.com/full/247692/B/


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Old 08-05-2016, 10:10 PM
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Nicely done!

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Old 08-05-2016, 10:34 PM
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Looking like the beginning of a great image! With more subs you'll get food rejection on all of those hot pixels
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:51 PM
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Looking like the beginning of a great image! With more subs you'll get food rejection on all of those hot pixels
Hot pixels? really? hmm I did run a rejection filter as my dither didn't work but I didn't notice any. chip was -23C and these were calibrated against darks.

I did a compare with Steve's trifid, mine's on the left in the attached screen shot. do you still think there are hot pixels??
I'll pay more attention when I get more data and will get that dither working

Steve's pic - https://www.flickr.com/photos/105968790@N03/18136336765

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Old 08-05-2016, 11:58 PM
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What causes the diffraction spikes to turn into a string of dots? Beautiful otherwise but i find the lines of dots distracting.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:10 AM
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See those little black spots in this crop? They're scattered all over your image. To get rid of these you just need more subs, four isn't really enough to get a good and clean rejection going.

I used to have a QHY9 which has the same KAF-8300 sensor as your SBIG. It is a great sensor but even at -25°C is it kinda noisy. Some more subs will smooth all of those little dots With enough subs and dithering you don't even need to worry about darks with the KAF sensors.

Glen, I think it's caused by the Ha filter, I notice the same thing in my refractor when I am focusing on mag 3-4 stars with my bahtinov mask.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:18 AM
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What causes the diffraction spikes to turn into a string of dots? Beautiful otherwise but i find the lines of dots distracting.
Hi that's my dual vane spider. I don't mind it, it's either that or large spikes on bright stars which I don't like. It sort of disappears when other channels are blended in

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See those little black spots in this crop? They're scattered all over your image. To get rid of these you just need more subs, four isn't really enough to get a good and clean rejection going.

I used to have a QHY9 which has the same KAF-8300 sensor as your SBIG. It is a great sensor but even at -25°C is it kinda noisy. Some more subs will smooth all of those little dots With enough subs and dithering you don't even need to worry about darks with the KAF sensors.

Glen, I think it's caused by the Ha filter, I notice the same thing in my refractor when I am focusing on mag 3-4 stars with my bahtinov mask.
Thanks I get it. That's a result of improper calibration. I'll redo it again when I add more data and it shouldn't show up even with less data

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Old 09-05-2016, 07:37 AM
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Very fine detail already. The main Herbig-Haro jet is very clear, excellent in fact, as is the dusty evaporative gaseous globule next to it. The double star in the centre is resolved into four, and the brightest of the four (itself a close double) is elongated.

Looking forward to the tricolour version. (You might need more subs when it comes to SII)

Nice capture.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:41 AM
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Nice level of detail, Al. The HH jets are always a good test on this target.

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What causes the diffraction spikes to turn into a string of dots? Beautiful otherwise but i find the lines of dots distracting.
It's a normal diffraction pattern for a spider and narrowband filter. You see the same effect in R/G/B data but more smeared out by the larger bandwidth. My Ceravolo 300 produces pretty rainbow coloured spikes in RGB images.

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Old 09-05-2016, 09:35 AM
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It's a normal diffraction pattern for a spider and narrowband filter. You see the same effect in R/G/B data but more smeared out by the larger bandwidth. My Ceravolo 300 produces pretty rainbow coloured spikes in RGB images.

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Thanks Rick, I am doing narrowband through my Mak-Newt so no vanes to produce those patterns. Must try through my regular newt and check it out.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:10 AM
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Looks good Al, you're certainly the king of short integration time images. Great detail for only 4 subs!
Seems to be a bit of coma on the left hand side maybe?
Good to see you imaging again
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Very fine detail already. The main Herbig-Haro jet is very clear, excellent in fact, as is the dusty evaporative gaseous globule next to it. The double star in the centre is resolved into four, and the brightest of the four (itself a close double) is elongated.

Looking forward to the tricolour version. (You might need more subs when it comes to SII)

Nice capture.
Thanks for the info, had to look up all that, very interesting. There's a lot happening in there. I was stoked that the HH was clear in the raw sub with no processing.

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Nice level of detail, Al. The HH jets are always a good test on this target.

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Thanks Rick, yep I always look for that jet, didn't realize there's a stalk "EGG" protrusion next to it which I've managed to capture as well.


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Looks good Al, you're certainly the king of short integration time images. Great detail for only 4 subs!
Seems to be a bit of coma on the left hand side maybe?
Good to see you imaging again
Thanks Andy, I think its in my genes to have short integration, need more discipline in setting up early!! The speed of the F4 certainly helps.
yep that's elongation is due to collimation, i'll be fixing that.

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Old 09-05-2016, 02:00 PM
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hi Alistair,

I thought I had commented on this, but definitely a great start! I think the antennae are in there, it is quite deep for 4 subs! and the main neb fairly bright. looking forward to more!
will you also be grabbing some RGB? always looks nice in LHaRGB

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Old 09-05-2016, 06:36 PM
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Very, very impressive start Al! Can't wait to see this one finished - before the election?
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Old 09-05-2016, 06:48 PM
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Looking good so far!
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:27 PM
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This one is looking very good Alistair - especially because I like b&w imgaes very much. But - I'm also looking forward to the narrowband version!

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Old 10-05-2016, 01:34 PM
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Nice one Alistair. The Ha version makes it look a little 3D and is heading towards the viewer.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:58 PM
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Ha..thought I had already commented on this one Alistair ..know I started writing a response..must have got distracted

Anyway, a great start, some really good res and the field is looking deep too.

I get multi-coloured diffraction spikes too, I like'em

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