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Old 20-04-2016, 10:13 AM
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Worth a crowdfunding campaign perhaps? Cost may not be the only reason though...
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Old 20-04-2016, 09:15 PM
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Crowd fund to buy the publishing rights from them and then goto another publisher perhaps.
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:48 PM
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Crowd fund to buy the publishing rights from them and then goto another publisher perhaps.
Tell me exactly how many people do you think would want this book?
At the most it would be probably in the hundreds not thousands.
If there was the demand you possibly think there is,don't you think the publishers would also think along those lines and publish another edition,
They would have a lot more information than we do.

There has been over the years requests for another publication,to no avail.
It aint going to happen.
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Old 21-04-2016, 12:33 AM
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You're right, it would not be a best seller. I guess all we can do is keep writing to them so that they know that there is a demand.
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Old 21-04-2016, 10:30 AM
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Tell me exactly how many people do you think would want this book?
Hi Ron, Twelve tousand twelve hundred and ...wait for it... twelve.
So what do we do now

Exact numbers... well I suppose a crowd funding campaign could establish that. Not having done one myself, I don't know the dynamics, but I think if it doesn't reach the target, nothing happens and no one pays anything apart from some listing fees perhaps. I do suspect the issue isn't just the cost though...and establishing that - plus the funding target - will be the hard part. It might be worth a thought to make this part of any written requests to them, rather than just ".... puhlease won't you do another one..."

The publishers may only have more info on this if they have put some effort into investigating it. Nothing so far seems to suggest that they have...

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It aint going to happen.
I can see why that's your preferred outcome:

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I will sell my used signed edition by David Malin and Fred Watson,sorry no David Frew signiture , for half of that price if anyone is interested.
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Old 21-04-2016, 11:37 AM
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The book is a very comprehensive one and would be quite expensive to produce now.
I think I paid over $70:00 dollars way back in 1995, it would cost a lot more today.
Melbourne University Press have been asked lots of times for a reprint and have shown no inclination to go ahead with one.
Another thing, the authors would wont to make some alterations as probably some of the science has changed since that time, and they also may not be too interested in doing it.



Hi Ron, Twelve thousand twelve hundred and ...wait for it... twelve.
So what do we do now.
I love your made up numbers, but they really don't mean a thing
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PS My offer still stands.
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Old 21-04-2016, 11:50 AM
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I'm guessing that it would probably cost about $120-150 today, which is pretty much what you would pay for a good used copy of the 2nd edition.[if you
could find one].
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Old 21-04-2016, 11:51 AM
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I just realised I have two copies. I paid $79.95 for the second edition back when they were available new. I got the paperback reprint of the first edition for $8.80 at a secondhand bookshop.

What do you need it for Stu? Are you an observer? Does it matter to you which edition?

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Old 21-04-2016, 12:36 PM
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To think I gave my spare copy away free to a person I had only just met..... and it was a copy originally owned by J Dana Patchick .....
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Old 21-04-2016, 01:02 PM
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I'm guessing that it would probably cost about $120-150 today, which is pretty much what you would pay for a good used copy of the 2nd edition.[if you
could find one].
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Even selling at that price I couldn't see it brake even,never mind make a profit.
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Old 21-04-2016, 02:13 PM
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I have a hardcopy of this book and I reckon it must be a first edition. Problem is its been "libraried" at some point. Dust jacket has been cut down and plastic contact covered. Its got NGC 3293 on the cover and b&w plates. A couple of pages from the front are missing, including publishing data but, apart from that, its very clean. Can anyone confirm its provenience?
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Old 21-04-2016, 02:41 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the bookstore in Melbourne.
On Tuesday I bought their 1st edition for $60. I have the 2nd edition and the 1st will be a fine addition to my library.

I used to ring some of the bigger bookstores years ago and get them to send me a list of Astrobooks they had in store. there were some real surprises and some great finds.
Might start doing again and reporting here on IIS "what's out there".
So I have Sybers in Caulfield and Archives in Brisbane, anyone else got some big book store names in their locations to follow up?
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Old 21-04-2016, 02:43 PM
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I have a hardcopy of this book and I reckon it must be a first edition. Problem is its been "libraried" at some point. Dust jacket has been cut down and plastic contact covered. Its got NGC 3293 on the cover and b&w plates. A couple of pages from the front are missing, including publishing data but, apart from that, its very clean. Can anyone confirm its provenience?
Sounds like the first edition printed in 1968.
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Old 21-04-2016, 02:50 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the bookstore in Melbourne.
On Tuesday I bought their 1st edition for $60. I have the 2nd edition and the 1st will be a fine addition to my library.

I used to ring some of the bigger bookstores years ago and get them to send me a list of Astrobooks they had in store. there were some real surprises and some great finds.
Might start doing again and reporting here on IIS "what's out there".
So I have Sybers in Caulfield and Archives in Brisbane, anyone else got some big book store names in their locations to follow up?
Thanks
Hi Peter, I got my first edition at.a second hand book shop in Nambour a few years ago for $7:00
Bought my second addition when the book was first published and got it signed by David Malin in the same year her in Brisbane.
It gets good use, and is a great reference book at the scope.
I have covered it in strong clear plastic, aand love the book to pieces.
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Old 22-04-2016, 04:24 PM
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I just realised I have two copies. I paid $79.95 for the second edition back when they were available new. I got the paperback reprint of the first edition for $8.80 at a secondhand bookshop.

What do you need it for Stu? Are you an observer? Does it matter to you which edition?

Andy
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Hi Andy.

I am an observer and, as many people here have agreed, the book is a lovely, useful addition to any astro library. Still very relevant and perhaps more so for observing at the scope (although nowhere near as comprehensive as Burnhams).

I will trawl the rare bookshops and home clearances for a copy, and perhaps a few more gems along the way.

Cheers,
Stu
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Old 22-04-2016, 06:12 PM
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There's a slight error there I think Mark.
If it is a paperback, it has to be the 1984 reprint of the first edition.
The second edition came out in 1995.
Sure , I meant the second printing ( or first reprint ) of the first edition .

I was never really attracted to the 1995 edition as my knowledge of the original , which was available in Amateur Astronomers Supply Co had a bit more `boyhood' romance attached to it !
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Old 22-04-2016, 10:53 PM
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After seeing this thread I went and found my 1968 first edition which I bought from Amateur Astronomers Supply Co not long after it came out when I was in my late teens. It has $6.75 written on the first page. It is in more or less original condition including the dust cover which I covered in clear plastic soon after I bought it. There is just a bit of browning of the page edges.
Are we really saying here that it could have significant value?
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Old 23-04-2016, 12:39 AM
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Ian, yes it has some value, but as the second[1995] edition was enlarged
and updated, it is the more sought after version. I seem to recall one of
the edition that you have selling here recently for around $90-$100.
The second edition generally fetches more.
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Old 23-04-2016, 08:56 AM
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there is one on sale at Amazon price $2221, and that's US dollars!!!!
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Old 23-04-2016, 10:14 AM
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there is one on sale at Amazon price $2221, and that's US dollars!!!!
I still am open to offers of half that price.
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