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Old 12-12-2015, 07:00 PM
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Having recently discovered the Absco pool pump shed observatory concept, I've decided I'm going to go down that path too. Today I started by building a mockup frame to check my setup will fit and I've concluded it is a perfect match.

I'm now trying to decide what to do for the floor. I'm looking for a solution that:
1. Can cope with a lot of rain/runoff so it needs to have a bit of ground clearance
2. Keeps ants out
3. Prevent ground moisture creating humidity in the obs
4. Stable so I'm not having to mess with polar alignment all the time
5. Semi permanent so I can remove/move it if necessary

I had a look around Bunnings today to checkout what was available and noticed Absco also make a produce called smart slab. It is a lightweight precast concrete slab that comes in 1.5x0.78 m sections. I'm considering using two of these and building a treated hardwood sleeper base to sit underneath to create some additional ground clearance. I'd lay some plastic sheeting down first then sleepers than the smart slab system. This would require 2 smart slab pieces with a join down the middle - I'm thinking some flexible exterior silicone to seal the gap between the slabs.

Interested in your views on this solution.

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Old 12-12-2015, 08:48 PM
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1. Can cope with a lot of rain/runoff so it needs to have a bit of ground clearanceyou would need some height from natural surface for this, maybe even channelled to allow the water to pass around it
2. Keeps ants outyou would have to chemical treat the ground maybe Diatomaceous Earth
3. Prevent ground moisture creating humidity in the obsdouble layered 200um black plastic
4. Stable so I'm not having to mess with polar alignment all the timethick concrete slab
5. Semi permanent so I can remove/move it if necessarywell if you want 4 then you will loose the slab and unbolt the top


the pre made slab will break up, they are not very thick:shrug
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Old 13-12-2015, 09:10 AM
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Thanks Dave,

I'm trying to avoid a full on slab for a few reasons:
Access is tight so pouring concrete is going to involve a lot of wheel barrow trips up a hill. I'm also not planning this to be a long term option and want to be able to remove it and re-instate the lawn down the track.

I've been using the bricks embedded in the lawn with a hole drilled for the tripod tips to achieve fast polar alignment for many years and I've found this to be quite stable. I'm really looking to replicate this concept with a bit of additional ground clearance and make it ant resistant.

I hadn't heard of diatomaceous earth being used for ant proofing but it seems it only works while it is dry and able to form a dust so I don't think it would work for long in our climate.
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Old 21-12-2015, 06:41 PM
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Big day today - ordered all the bits. Hoping it will all arrive before Christmas.

I've settled on a different location to my original spot which offers better views to the East and North. I've come up with a floor solution that is a little less permanent than a slab as I expect I'll want to move this some time in the future.

Can't wait to get started now.
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Old 22-12-2015, 06:51 AM
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Old 22-12-2015, 08:31 AM
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Big day today - ordered all the bits. Hoping it will all arrive before Christmas.

I've settled on a different location to my original spot which offers better views to the East and North. I've come up with a floor solution that is a little less permanent than a slab as I expect I'll want to move this some time in the future.

Can't wait to get started now.
is that location clear of your neighbor's light?
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Old 22-12-2015, 10:10 AM
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is that location clear of your neighbor's light?
Not completely but less affected than where I've traditionally set up.
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Old 26-12-2015, 12:14 PM
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I'm going down this path very soon myself with the Absco Pool pump shed...however Im doing a poured slab as it will be there for ahwile.
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Old 27-12-2015, 04:33 PM
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Quick update - shed still hasn't arrived and I'm going to hold off constructing the floor until I get a look at the shed. But to keep things moving I've been pruning trees from the fence line and after two trips to the transfer station, that job is done. I've also been digging the trench for the electrical and data cables. Big job digging through clay and shale by hand on a steamy Brisbane day but I'm almost done with that also. I think I discovered a hidden garden in the process - who buries plastic plant pots? Tomorrow I'll get the conduit in and back fill the trench.

I'm hoping the shed will arrive on Tuesday so I can make some progress.

I've knocked off early. Time for a beer!
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Old 27-12-2015, 09:02 PM
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Just reading through your project Peter, and I kinda agree David (Hough) as in stability in a base, ? securing sections will have lots of potential to move/tilt about. ?
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Old 27-12-2015, 09:25 PM
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Just a suggestion,, maybe three solid 3/4 size bessa-blocks on their ends, approx 300mm high for you tripod legs, use 3 premix bags a concrete from bunnings, one for each block, to form a pyramid around each block, then build up the ground around them say 200mm and then form/build your deck on top ? Maybe a coal chisel and lump hammer to punch/brake some holes through the 'smart slabs to accommodate the blocks ? ?
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Old 28-12-2015, 11:47 AM
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Thanks for the feedback Bob. I've decided against the smart slab and I've gone for a heavier pre-cast option. This one is 60mm thick. It will be resting on a 80mm base of cement stabilised sand with a treated pine box all around to keep everything in place. I'm going to grout the joins to seal from ants.
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Old 29-12-2015, 04:37 PM
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Made a bit more progress today. Got the cat6 and power cables pulled through the conduits and the last bit of concreting around the conduits complete.

Unfortunately the shed is still sitting at Absco awaiting delivery. I'm pretty disappointed with both Absco and Bunnings as I was told I'd get it by Thursday last week. What makes things worse is neither Absco or Bunnings can provide any certainty around delivery date. Pretty crap given they claim 48 hours delivery on these. Luckily I've had enough other prep work to keep me busy.
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Old 30-12-2015, 09:07 PM
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Sounds much betterra, the heavier pre-cast 60mm thick option (y)
Bit of a bugga your shed not turning yet, you cant pick it up can you, it wouldn't be a large pack, have it hanging out the boot long-ways a couple o feet with a red shirt ? Or is it a long drive ?
Good your still able to be productive tho ...
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Unfortunately the shed is still sitting at Absco awaiting delivery. I'm pretty disappointed with both Absco and Bunnings as I was told I'd get it by Thursday last week. What makes things worse is neither Absco or Bunnings can provide any certainty around delivery date. Pretty crap given they claim 48 hours delivery on these. Luckily I've had enough other prep work to keep me busy.
I've been lucky. I ordered mine from Bunnings on Monday last week (i.e. 11 days ago) and was told to expect it in the second or third week of Jan. Got a call 2 days ago to say it was ready and it was delivered yesterday. They seem a bit variable.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:06 PM
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My shed also got delivered today. I've got most of it assembled this afternoon thanks to help from Allan Gould. I'm hoping to have the rest including the floor complete tomorrow.

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Lol Troy ,,,

Good to hear its all happening Peter
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OK - finally got around to taking some photos. Finished off some last few fixing jobs today. Left to do:

1. Seal the gaps in the floor
2. Seal around the base
3. Wire up the power and data
4. Install a solar powered ventilation fan

I'll then look at how hot it gets and whether insulation will be required.

The floor is very stable so I'm happy with how that worked out.
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Old 10-01-2016, 08:21 PM
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A bit more progress this weekend. The wiring is all complete and I've sealed the joints in the floor with self-levelling cement. I've also purchased the parts for the solar vent fan and done a quick check to see if it works (and it does!).

Final things to do include sealing the floor-wall joint with expanding foam and installing the vents - hoping to have these complete by next weekend.
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