What's the Most disappointing Day in your Life.

[pgc hunter]

Originally Posted by RB

They probably Googled all your posts on here about Melbourne weather.....

background checks LOL

[PCH (Paul)]

The day another bloody Australia Post thread appeared on here! Oh wait, that's today, lol

[xelasnave]

I have been able to make a list...

[clive milne]

The day I knew with crushing certainty that the only person who dedicated his life to writing fiction on the following list is the one in italics.

William Golding
George Orwell
Bill Hicks
Aldous Huxley
Deek Jackson
Ray Bradbury
George Carlin
Gary Webb
Danny Casolaro
Rupert Murdoch

Beasts of England, beasts of Ireland,
Beasts of every land and clime,
Hearken to my joyful tiding
Of the golden future time.

Actually... that was so yesterday.

I'm now going with;
4 legs good, 2 legs bad.
At least with this statement there will be no censorship from captain squealer.

As the saying goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Happy new year!
I expect it will be much like the previous, but with a twist of irony.

[astronobob (Bob)]

At age 20 back in early '80's my bestest mate nickname 'Worm' for 15yrs, also my vice captain when we won two premierships U/14s & 15's; runners up in 16's - got involved with a Heavy Metal band as the Drummer - all other goings on included as can imagine, got a bit wacky and dobbed me into the police for breaking into their house and stealing heaps of stuff including thousands in cash - Which I Didn't - True Words may lightning strike me down !

Yeah, I had to wait like 2 hrs in an intimidation room, then the questions started, I did not have a clue what this was all going to be about, but after 15-20mins and a couple of ph calls as in alibi's, they let me go, saw that my 'so-called mate' was full of it !
Was rather distressing at the time as went went through heaps together - so many good-times - all gone in a whisper

Apparently he is still Rock'en in Sydney - no great success, living on a whim !

[OzStarGazer]

Originally Posted by FlashDrive

Mine was when I found out ' Santa ' wasn't real .....

AH!!! I wanted to write the same even before opening this thread, just by looking at the title.

Other disappointing days have been when I have found out that "friends" had been stabbing me in the back.

[CJ (Chris)]

9/11 has to be up there.

[csb (Craig)]

911 doesn't really move the emotions to disappointment, do they? Probably Bin Laden was disappointed that one plane was crashed into open countryside by the passengers.

[CJ (Chris)]

There were lots of emotions that day.
I was disappointed that someone could commit such a enormously divisive act and that no terrorist act seemed unthinkable any more.

[OzStarGazer]

Third moon eclipse of the tetrad, last one theoretically visible from Australia - just as invisible behind thick clouds as the first two.

[clive milne]

Originally Posted by csb

Probably Bin Laden was disappointed that one plane was crashed into open countryside by the passengers.

Well, that particular conspiracy theory is not supported by much (if any) weight of credible evidence.

Unlike (a selection from the public record):

Operation Susannah/The Lavon affair.
The USS Liberty incident.
Operation Northwoods.
Gladio
The (attempted) sinking of the SS Patria
Deir Yasin
Kafr Qasim
Bahr al Baker

And I'll stop there, being that it's a very long list which might have been worth posting if I imagined any of you would take the time to understand the significance of these events, the common thread... and given the priorities expressed by people on this forum implies that none of you actually want to understand... the desire to that end being nowhere in evidence.

And so, history repeats.

[el_draco (Rom)]

The first time I said, "I do...." In hindsight, I would have handsomely paid anyone who had punched my lights out 5 seconds earlier and stomped me hard where it hurts most

[Hagar (Doug)]

History repeats and so does Clive. Did someone buy you a book of lists?

Originally Posted by clive milne

Well, that particular conspiracy theory is not supported by much (if any) weight of credible evidence.

Unlike (a selection from the public record):

Operation Susannah/The Lavon affair.
The USS Liberty incident.
Operation Northwoods.
Gladio
The (attempted) sinking of the SS Patria
Deir Yasin
Kafr Qasim
Bahr al Baker

And I'll stop there, being that it's a very long list which might have been worth posting if I imagined any of you would take the time to understand the significance of these events, the common thread... and given the priorities expressed by people on this forum implies that none of you actually want to understand... the desire to that end being nowhere in evidence.

And so, history repeats.

[clive milne]

Originally Posted by Hagar

History repeats and so does Clive. Did someone buy you a book of lists?

Thank you for illustrating my point.

For anyone who took the time to understand (the significance of the events on) the list I posted,
it would be perfectly clear where your heart, soul and thirty pieces of silver are invested.... it isn't with us, and it ain't here.

[Hagar (Doug)]

Clive, remove your hand and take a deep breath.

Originally Posted by clive milne

Thank you for illustrating my point.

It is now perfectly clear where your heart, soul and thirty pieces of silver are invested.... and it ain't here.

[BilliGoatsGruff (Billi)]

Originally Posted by OzStarGazer

Third moon eclipse of the tetrad, last one theoretically visible from Australia - just as invisible behind thick clouds as the first two.

I missed them all too! It was such a disappointment when I realised that was all of the ones visible for us.

Actually, I seem to miss all of the exciting stuff. Not sure if I can blame it on the kids or not, but this chicky needs her sleep!

[AstralTraveller (David)]

Originally Posted by clive milne

Well, that particular conspiracy theory is not supported by much (if any) weight of credible evidence.

Unlike (a selection from the public record):

Operation Susannah/The Lavon affair.
The USS Liberty incident.
Operation Northwoods.
Gladio
The (attempted) sinking of the SS Patria
Deir Yasin
Kafr Qasim
Bahr al Baker

And I'll stop there, being that it's a very long list which might have been worth posting if I imagined any of you would take the time to understand the significance of these events, the common thread... and given the priorities expressed by people on this forum implies that none of you actually want to understand... the desire to that end being nowhere in evidence.

And so, history repeats.

Clive, I find your posts most informative and worthwhile reading. I'm interested in understanding you and if you were just a bit less cryptic I might succeed. I don't have time during the day to do the research you suggest and tonight is already spoken for (writing to DSS to tell them to stop stealing money from my mother). Can you point me to a not-too-long explanation of your point?

As you may imagine, I find you last generalisation inappropriate. It's true that the loud-mouthed ignoramii tend to make the most noise while the decent people tend to keep quiet but I think that is because 'ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge' (Darwin). You haven't made today the most disappointing of my life but being lumped in with <names withheld> certainly hasn't raised my spirits.

[CJ (Chris)]

I too was interested to read Clive's links. Fascinating stuff.

[AstralTraveller (David)]

Originally Posted by FlashDrive

Mine was when I found out ' Santa ' wasn't real .....

I can't remember that clearly. I think it sort of dawned on me slowly. But I do remember thinking that I'd better not let on that I know or the flow of presents might stop.

As for me, I can't decide on an answer. I've had all sorts of bad days and I'm wondering which ones I call 'disappointing' ... and which ones I want to talk about. Right now I'm disappointed nothing seems to keep the grubs out of my tomatoes and that something small enough to get through the mesh has discovered what tasty strawberries I'm growing.

[clive milne]

Originally Posted by AstralTraveller

As you may imagine, I find you last generalisation inappropriate. It's true that the loud-mouthed ignoramii tend to make the most noise while the decent people tend to keep quiet but I think that is because 'ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge' (Darwin). You haven't made today the most disappointing of my life but being lumped in with <names withheld> certainly hasn't raised my spirits.

On this topic at least, I am pleased to be suitably admonished for being incorrect and unfair.

I apologise.

Can you point me to a not-too-long explanation of your point?

The subject matter has been so profoundly obfuscated and distorted in the public narrative that it requires some historical context in order to even begin to understand it... well, actually a fair bit of historical context... way beyond what could be conveyed in a 5 minute youtube video or sound byte.

fwiw) I couldn't count the number of hours I have spent over the years trying to piece it together (and I won't insult you with the hubris to suggest I have been successful to that end) but the time would be measured in the thousands (of hours), digging through the publicly accessibly accounts, the journals, transcripts, diaries, interviews of historians and people on the stage of life in the pivotal moments in history. Of course, a sizeable chunk of that time was wasted on reading or listening to buffoons, shills, gate keepers and charlatans. Ironically, all of them serving to define the boundaries of the set of information best described; as 'not the truth'. Amongst the tailings however, you find the gems... the skill worth learning is how to make the distinction.

Ask Danny Casolaro why I choose not to elaborate further.

I prefer the remuneration of 'non-participant/observer' status.