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Old 23-11-2015, 10:37 AM
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Tarantula takes two tiny steps

The very beginnings of what might be a long project - a 0.55 sec arc/pixel mosaic of the greater Tarantula region.

High res original here.

So far, due to weather, we have just the top central frame and one about a third of a frame bit below it. Hence the framing looks a bit odd, as we plan to add many more frames to left, right, and down, but not up.

Only one hour per channel per frame so far, so statistical data rejection is impossible.

Supernova 1987a is marked, toward the bottom right corner.

Placidus Palette: Hydrogen alpha unashamedly mapped to yellow and OIII to blue. Star colours not modified. No noise reduction.

We rather like the structure at bottom left, which from one point of view is an Aladdin's cave filled with jewels, and from another is the gaping jaws of a fierce taipan coming to eat the astronomer.

Aspen CG16M on 20" PlaneWave. As usual, all image processing software including the mosaic construction is written by Mike. Consequently this shot is something of a proof of concept.

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M & T
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Old 23-11-2015, 10:51 AM
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I was starting to suffer from Tarantula fatigue, but that's like a spider bite antivenene, M&T

Lovely to see at such high res. Looking forward to the full mosaic!

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Old 23-11-2015, 11:04 AM
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I see Commonwealth Serum Labs shares have jumped

Beautifully resolved...I share your pain with the weather.
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Old 23-11-2015, 11:43 AM
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That's going straight to the pool room... (when it's finished of course).
Very nice detail there
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Old 23-11-2015, 02:08 PM
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I was starting to suffer from Tarantula fatigue, but that's like a spider bite antivenene, M&T

Lovely to see at such high res. Looking forward to the full mosaic!

Cheers,
Rick.
Thanks, Rick. Now to harden the resolve and actually do it.

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I see Commonwealth Serum Labs shares have jumped

Beautifully resolved...I share your pain with the weather.
Thanks, Peter. I approve of your Oz renaming. Pleased to report we don't get the full-on Atrax Robustus in the Central West. Just brown snakes.

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That's going straight to the pool room... (when it's finished of course).
Very nice detail there
Thanks, Andy. You are providing much needed motivation to get on with it.
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Old 23-11-2015, 03:54 PM
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Thant is seriously nice looking spider M&T, I really look forward to seeing your completed project
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Old 24-11-2015, 07:24 AM
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Thant is seriously nice looking spider M&T, I really look forward to seeing your completed project
Thank you very much, Slawomir. We think we added another panel last night. Will have a look after breakfast.
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Old 24-11-2015, 11:19 AM
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Looking interesting so far MnT. Did you do a lot of decon on the image?

With regard to SN1987A, I can just now see some colour in the SN1987A. in my data. The two lobes you have there are actually two stars each side of the main remnant. It is coming up blue in my data. The stars are that hideous red colour at present. I have included a 100% crop for comparison.
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Old 24-11-2015, 06:27 PM
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Looking interesting so far MnT. Did you do a lot of decon on the image?

With regard to SN1987A, I can just now see some colour in the SN1987A. in my data. The two lobes you have there are actually two stars each side of the main remnant. It is coming up blue in my data. The stars are that hideous red colour at present. I have included a 100% crop for comparison.
Hi, Paul,

Not a "lot" of decon: FWHM was 4.4 pixels (2.4 sec arc) after stacking but before decon. After 5 rounds of Richardson-Lucy (with the constraint that the output should be no darker than the input) it was 3.7 pixels (2.0 sec arc) and that's where we stopped.

What I think our pic is showing with regard to sn1987a is that there's not a lot to see. I agree about the two stars.

Back in 1992 or thereabouts the ring was 1.6 arc sec across, and therefore not resolvable as importantly different from a star at our FWHM. My limited understanding is that what they were photographing back then was the "light echo" on pre-existing material, not an actual shock front.

I've spent about an hour hunting for newer images without success. There's an APOD video, but it's barely documented. It just says it's gotten bigger.

If anyone knows of something even remotely definitive, I'd love to be educated.

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Old 24-11-2015, 06:37 PM
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If anyone knows of something even remotely definitive, I'd love to be educated.

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Yeah me too. I remember the SN very well and the buzz about it was exciting. I am most interested in how it has developed and what could be seen now.
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Old 24-11-2015, 10:45 PM
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Wow big spider, looks bloody fantastic at small size once enlarged it still looks pretty good but the umm? that filter? err? what's it called? .. becomes a bit more evident, still, overall a great grand feel and once you have composed the mozaic it should look rather jaw dropping Very cool to have picked up SN1987a too

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Old 25-11-2015, 09:56 AM
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Wow big spider, looks bloody fantastic at small size once enlarged it still looks pretty good but the umm? that filter? err? what's it called? .. becomes a bit more evident, still, overall a great grand feel and once you have composed the mozaic it should look rather jaw dropping Very cool to have picked up SN1987a too

Mike
Thanks Mike! Next version will have no decon. Promise.

Up to four panels now. Realized we're making a big mistake. Some panels are done under essentially full moon, and other overlapping panels under new moon. My data rejection algorithm (for cosmic rays, hot pixels, bad columns, etc) is really struggling with this. Even after my best attempt at normalization it's chucking out say the entirety of the full moon panel as an "outlier". What we need to do is to only do data rejection only within panels (eg south-west corner), and only on sets taken under similar conditions. Probably avoiding the full moon would be a good idea too, but it's been so clear!
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Old 25-11-2015, 01:28 PM
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Thanks Mike! Next version will have no decon. Promise.
He, he I'm a pain huh? To me at least, seeing something (like a little noise) that's been left in an image, ie not processed out is quite ok but seeing detail or features that have been essentially added in via processing is quite another ..like Smallpox and with your help we can eventually eradicate this bad habit from the face of astroimaging, so help me Go..?..Big Bang

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Up to four panels now. Realized we're making a big mistake. Some panels are done under essentially full moon, and other overlapping panels under new moon. My data rejection algorithm (for cosmic rays, hot pixels, bad columns, etc) is really struggling with this. Even after my best attempt at normalization it's chucking out say the entirety of the full moon panel as an "outlier". What we need to do is to only do data rejection only within panels (eg south-west corner), and only on sets taken under similar conditions. Probably avoiding the full moon would be a good idea too, but it's been so clear!
Ah yes a significant stumbling block by the sounds of it...
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Old 25-11-2015, 02:34 PM
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Tiny stars and serious image scale. Great wispy shot.
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Old 26-11-2015, 06:28 AM
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Thanks, Marc. Did a fifth panel (under torture full moon) last night.
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