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Old 15-02-2015, 03:54 PM
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Old swans never die

This Swan is from a couple years ago, with the old STL-11000M. I've reprocessed it knowing what I've learned in the interim.

Even back then, it was a quickie: 2hrs each SII (red), H-alpha (green), OIII (blue). There is a far deeper shot on APOD.

The biggest change in my approach is that I'm pushing the SII much more now, to try to show not how much SII there is (very little, so a green image), but where the SII is (so a more balanced image).

So what does the SII tell us? Every astro-photo is not just a pretty face, it is a story.

Notice the huge arc of red-orange-yellow SII arching up and around the top left of the image, starting perhaps somewhere around 8 o'clock, and finishing around 1 o'clock. For this web of material to be showing in SII, it has to be very thin, cool, material, dredged up from the hearts of probably now dead stars. The webbing suggests multiple tangled shock fronts, perhaps from old supernova explosions.

By comparison, the bottom right part of the image contains almost no SII, and shows much more green H-alpha. This green is code for thicker, hotter, and/or less recycled material.

Hugely pushing the SII (so that you can see this rare and valuable stuff) makes magenta haloes around stars. I've controlled the ones around the brighter stars, but as Bob Marley said, they are just a part of it. I've not tried to eliminate them completely.

Big one here. About 1MB.

Every picture tells a story, baby.
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Old 15-02-2015, 04:02 PM
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Old 15-02-2015, 05:17 PM
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Is the image missing an ICC colour profile, Mike? I think Smugmug mostly handles them correctly so I assume it's the image file rather than the gallery software.

I was going to say I love the colours but I'm not sure if I'm seeing them correctly

I enjoyed the commentary as well.

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Old 15-02-2015, 06:53 PM
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Great image, MnT. I also really liked the explanation, it provides a nice context with the mapping you have selected.

Top job
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Old 15-02-2015, 08:11 PM
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Hi Mike,
another superb result from the 20 inch PlaneWave.
3.5 meters of focal length really gives a superb closeup with lots of detail.

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Old 15-02-2015, 08:15 PM
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Great work Mike!

Stunning detail.

Cheers,

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Old 15-02-2015, 09:09 PM
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Great image! Love the explanations , very enjoyable.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:17 PM
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g day Mike,

i add my thanks for posting another great capture and for the explanations.

i was surprised (i am but a novice) to see the very square edge to the dust in the swan's throat, and other softer squares around its head and at its up-swept tail. so far when i have observed the throat seems smoothly curved.

the squareness reminded of an article "Spider Webs in Space" by Robert Zimmerman in AS&T January 2015 with particular reference to the Red Rectangle, but i dunno if the connection is a valid one.

cheers, L
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Old 16-02-2015, 06:21 AM
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Thanks, Marc. Glad you like it.

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Is the image missing an ICC colour profile, Mike? I think Smugmug mostly handles them correctly so I assume it's the image file rather than the gallery software. I was going to say I love the colours but I'm not sure if I'm seeing them correctly I enjoyed the commentary as well. Cheers, Rick.
Hi, Rick, I've written to you separately asking for a bit of a tutorial on ICC profiles. I know how to embed one, but not how it relates to my particular situation.
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Old 16-02-2015, 09:32 AM
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Great image, MnT. I also really liked the explanation, it provides a nice context with the mapping you have selected.
Top job
Thanks, David.

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Hi Mike, another superb result from the 20 inch PlaneWave. 3.5 meters of focal length really gives a superb closeup with lots of detail. cheers Allan
Cheers, Allan, glad you like it.

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Great work Mike!
Stunning detail. Cheers, Justin.
Yippee ! Thanks, Justin.

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Great image! Love the explanations , very enjoyable.
Thanks, Rod.

Best,
Mike and Trish (without whose co-pilotage I would take 6 hours of faultlessly guided darks)
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Old 16-02-2015, 09:47 AM
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g day Mike,

i add my thanks for posting another great capture and for the explanations.

i was surprised (i am but a novice) to see the very square edge to the dust in the swan's throat, and other softer squares around its head and at its up-swept tail. so far when i have observed the throat seems smoothly curved.

the squareness reminded of an article "Spider Webs in Space" by Robert Zimmerman in AS&T January 2015 (?? Nov 2014 ??) with particular reference to the Red Rectangle, but i dunno if the connection is a valid one.

cheers, L
Thanks, Lyndon.

The very square edges are an optical illusion (but very visible: See the Colombari et al shot on APOD

I think the mechanism in the case of the Swan (as Lesa Moore reminded me only recently in another context) is that two sets of parallel shock fronts, at different distances to us, are overlapping on the same line of sight. One set is by luck and history at 90 degrees to the other set.

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Old 16-02-2015, 11:08 AM
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Wha tha? not another nice colour palette from MBJ ...you are starting to make a habit of this now

Your recent software tweaks seem to be working nicely too and the decon is hardly noticeable

This bird looks really cool in full narrowband too

Mike
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Old 16-02-2015, 12:25 PM
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That's an awesome and intriguing result, well done!
BTW have you considered replacing the NB stars with RGB?

Might be just me but I think it gives an aesthetically pleasing result.

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Old 16-02-2015, 02:41 PM
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Cool detail and colouring Mike. Well done.
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Old 16-02-2015, 10:21 PM
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You nailed it Mike & Trish!
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Old 17-02-2015, 05:45 AM
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A great looking photo Mike.

Well composed with excellent detail.

So sharp.

An interesting story, well illustrated by the colours!

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Old 17-02-2015, 07:07 AM
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Wha tha? not another nice colour palette from MBJ ...you are starting to make a habit of this now Your recent software tweaks seem to be working nicely too and the decon is hardly noticeable This bird looks really cool in full narrowband too Mike
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Cool detail and colouring Mike. Well done.
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You nailed it Mike & Trish!
Thanks so much to all three of you. You are generous mentors.

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Mike and Trish
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Old 17-02-2015, 07:26 AM
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That's an awesome and intriguing result, well done! BTW have you considered replacing the NB stars with RGB? Might be just me but I think it gives an aesthetically pleasing result. cheers Andy
Thanks, Andy. Our experiments in RGB stars are in their infancy. Can look very nice, but not sure it's the way I want to go. The other approach is to convert the stars to white. Either way, my self-written star-finder algorithm needs work, to find the faintest ones accurately against nebulosity. Something soon.

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A great looking photo Mike. Well composed with excellent detail. So sharp. An interesting story, well illustrated by the colours! Ross.
Cheers, Ross. Pleased that you like it.
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Old 17-02-2015, 07:15 PM
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Excellent Guys, as DJT says, your explanations are always informative and add spice to the viewing experience. Its interesting to see variations on the colour palletes you present and why you do.
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