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Old 01-01-2015, 09:10 PM
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Tarantula Nebula separated into OIII and Ha emissions

Generally I try to avoid imaging common objects unless I am trying out new techniques.
One technique under development is to separate out OIII and Ha dominant features in an object and enhance each wavelength by remapping the colour.
In this case OIII is mapped to cyan and Ha to red.

The Tarantula is a good target, because it is bright in both OIII and Ha.
The challenge is identifying the dominant wavelength and is achieved by using a (OIII-Ha) and a (Ha-OIII) mask.

A conventionally processed image can then be remapped through each mask revealing and enhancing details that are not commonly seen.
The other advantage is that star colour balance is maintained.

2 hrs OIII + 2 hr Ha as a luminance image. 1 hr RGB each.
BRC-250 and STXL-11002 CCD.

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http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Tar_OIII_Ha.html

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Old 01-01-2015, 10:06 PM
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Great image Steven.

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Old 01-01-2015, 10:15 PM
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Hi Steven,
that's an amazing picture - shows the quality of your optics.
That's a huge FOV for a 10" f/5 and sharp to the corners.
I'd like to see the separate mono frames of O111 & Ha.
Thanks for sharing

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Unconventional, but compelling Steven. Nicely done.

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Old 02-01-2015, 10:22 AM
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Unconventional, but compelling Steven. Nicely done.

Cheers, Marcus
Thanks Marcus.

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Hi Steven,
that's an amazing picture - shows the quality of your optics.
That's a huge FOV for a 10" f/5 and sharp to the corners.
I'd like to see the separate mono frames of O111 & Ha.
Thanks for sharing

cheers
Allan
Here they are Alan.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Tar_OIII.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Tar_Ha.jpg

To see the differences in greater one needs to subtract the Ha image from the OIII image and vice versa.
These were used as maps to extract the detail in the OIIIHaRGB image.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/OIII_map.jpg
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Ha_map.jpg

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Great image Steven.
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Thanks Greg.

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Old 02-01-2015, 10:28 AM
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Here they are Allan.
Thanks - you can really see now where the signal was.
Interesting that you subtract to make masks.

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Old 02-01-2015, 10:34 AM
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Steven,
That's amazing!!
Your efforts are well appreciated!
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:40 AM
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I really like it too, Steven. Good to see some new processing ideas.

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Old 02-01-2015, 12:27 PM
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Thanks - you can really see now where the signal was.
Interesting that you subtract to make masks.

cheers
Allan
It's very simple in PI.
Use pixel math to subtract the images, make sure the mask is registered with the main image and use a manual colour calibration command to work on the areas of interest.

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That's amazing!!
Your efforts are well appreciated!
Thanks Ken.

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I really like it too, Steven. Good to see some new processing ideas.

Cheers,
Rick.
Thanks Rick. As you are a PI aficionado, I use the Assisted Colour Calibration command to work on the masked areas.
I'm sure the developers of this function in no way intended the function to be used as I am using it.
It allows me to accurately assign colours to the respective wavelengths.
OIII is blue green or cyan in colour, and Ha is deep red.

The challenge is to now add SII to the mix and assign a colour.
The most "realistic" colour for SII is a deeper shade of red which can be developed using the Assisted Colour Calibration command.

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That looks really cool. I like the palette. Details are simply superb.
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That looks really cool. I like the palette. Details are simply superb.

Thanks Marc.

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That looks really cool. I like the palette. Details are simply superb.
Hello Marc,

It's not a different palette, but a (HaOIII)RGB image processed to differentiate between OIII and Ha regions and assign the correct colour to these emissions.

I have found SII doesn't add much to process, not surprisingly as SII is a weak emission and close to the Ha wavelength making it hard to differentiate.

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Good work Steve.
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Thanks Louie.

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Old 13-01-2015, 10:34 PM
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Interesting processing technique Steven and it's certainly effective because that's a very nice Tarantula.

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Hi Steve,

Your technique works well.

That is a great looking Tarantula photo.

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interesting approach and a very fine image Steven.
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Old 15-01-2015, 09:18 AM
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Thanks Steve,Ross and Ray.

This is still a work in progress.
It needs further refinement.

One aspect I need to consider is to normalise the OIII and Ha images as part of the mask creation.

I'll post a revised version of the Tarantula.

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I am interested in how you did this, did you account for differing responses at each wavelength. Filter transmission and ccd spectral response will both change the relative amount of intenintensity of each channel
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I am interested in how you did this, did you account for differing responses at each wavelength. Filter transmission and ccd spectral response will both change the relative amount of intenintensity of each channel
This is the next step of the process.
The way of dealing with these issues collectively (including sky glow) is to normalize the sky background of the stacked OIII and Ha images before constructing the masks.

The masks are applied to the OIIIHaRGB image and enhancement is done through the masks exclusively with the R channel.

When I get the time I'll process and post the final result.

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