Oh .... my gawd!! ... Noooooo!! ...

[LewisM]

I trialled PI twice. Was really "Aw, I dunno" about it, but then one day, sold something (VERY unusual for me ) and I had a spare $250 or whatever it was, so hit the button.

I regret every single second of it.

I will learn it - maybe. I find PS a breeze, and MaxIM, and CCDStack does all my stacking and pre-processing just fine (can't say much about the images though )

[Octane (Humayun)]

Stick with it, Lewis. Once you get comfortable with it, it will be a replacement for everything (except, Photoshop).

H

[Bart]

Go for it Marcus! It cans PS!

Stick with it, watch/read as many tutorials as you can. With the PS skills you already have and a bit of fiddling, your practiced eye will soon have you zinging along and producing images way better than all the other stuff together can spit out.

PI! PI! PI!

[uwahl (Ulrich)]

I think that Bart's technological distinctiveness has been added to the Borg PI collective.

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by bart

pi! Pi! Pi!

+1

[marc4darkskies (Marcus)]

Originally Posted by Octane

... it will be a replacement for everything (except, Photoshop).
H

Well put H!

Originally Posted by Bart

Go for it Marcus! It cans PS!

Stick with it, watch/read as many tutorials as you can. With the PS skills you already have and a bit of fiddling, your practiced eye will soon have you zinging along and producing images way better than all the other stuff together can spit out.

PI! PI! PI!

Originally Posted by ghsmith45

+1

You guys crack me up! I've only discovered 2 things about PI that I want to use - gradient removal and star registration via image deformation. Neither of those things are native to PS. Will there be more? I'm skeptical, but time will tell!

As I mentioned earlier, my plan is NOT to supplant PS at this time. And why should I? I know how to use it well and it comes easy to me, especially using Actions.

[Octane (Humayun)]

PixInsight is not a replacement for Photoshop. It never will be.

H

[DJT (David)]

Originally Posted by marc4darkskies

Well put H!





You guys crack me up! I've only discovered 2 things about PI that I want to use - gradient removal and star registration via image deformation. Neither of those things are native to PS. Will there be more? I'm skeptical, but time will tell!

As I mentioned earlier, my plan is NOT to supplant PS at this time. And why should I? I know how to use it well and it comes easy to me, especially using Actions.

Try Masked stretch out (no more blown stars) and Deconvolution via dynamic PSF (tutorial below)

http://mike-wiles.blogspot.com.au/20...nvolution.html

welcome to the dark side..

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by Octane

PixInsight is not a replacement for Photoshop. It never will be.

H

Quite agree. They were designed with completely different objectives in mind and they each fit their terms of reference admirably.
Geoff

[Rod771 (Rod)]

Originally Posted by ghsmith45

Quite agree. They were designed with completely different objectives in mind and they each fit their terms of reference admirably.
Geoff

Absolutely! Pixinsight for deep space , DPP/Photoshop for nightscapes. Thats what I do.

I started off not knowing either and found the learning curve for both to be quite the same, one wasn't harder than the other, it's just how you apply yourself to the task at hand.

I think you'll enjoy PI, Marcus

[Octane (Humayun)]

I use them in conjunction with each other. For me, they each have a place in the workflow.

H

[marc4darkskies (Marcus)]

Originally Posted by DJT

Try Masked stretch out (no more blown stars) and Deconvolution via dynamic PSF (tutorial below)

http://mike-wiles.blogspot.com.au/20...nvolution.html

Nah ... in PS:

1. Mask stars - 30 seconds of work (incl. feathering and any size adjustment) - an Action I created ages ago
2. Non linear stretch (Curve to taste) - 30 seconds of work

... maximum!

Originally Posted by ghsmith45

Quite agree. They were designed with completely different objectives in mind and they each fit their terms of reference admirably.
Geoff

I agree and I would argue (in all seriousness) that one is not better than the other.

Originally Posted by Rod771

Absolutely! Pixinsight for deep space , DPP/Photoshop for nightscapes. Thats what I do...

I think you'll enjoy PI, Marcus

Cheers Rod. In some respects I agree but I wouldn't think about it that way. It's just that PS is a much more "generic" application. I'm looking upon PI as an ancillary tool box. I don't need to replace PS for Deep Space work.

[rustigsmed (Russell)]

Originally Posted by marc4darkskies

I've only discovered 2 things about PI that I want to use - gradient removal and star registration via image deformation. Neither of those things are native to PS. Will there be more? I'm skeptical, but time will tell!

i am close to buying it too Marcus, but solely for the gradient removal!

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by rustigsmed

i am close to buying it too Marcus, but solely for the gradient removal!

Well I guess it helps to keep the company in business so they can keep churning out new stuff (almost on a weekly basis) for the rest of us to use.
Geoff

[LewisM]

Originally Posted by marc4darkskies

Nah ... in PS:

1. Mask stars - 30 seconds of work (incl. feathering and any size adjustment) - an Action I created ages ago
2. Non linear stretch (Curve to taste) - 30 seconds of work

... maximum!

Maximum indeed. Probably 30 seconds work COMBINED, especially if you use Annie's Astro Actions or Astronomy Tools action plugins. Makes star selection about 5 seconds.

I still can't find a single thing besides DBE in PI I like. CCDStack does a MUCH better background neutralisation though.

TO each their own. It's far from the Catch-all software many claim it is.

I also agree with Nettie about "Panda Eye" effect

[marc4darkskies (Marcus)]

Originally Posted by LewisM

... Probably 30 seconds work COMBINED, ...

Correct, but I didn't want to boast!

[RobF (Rob)]

Rogelio spoke well at the first AAIC - saying PI is "different", not necessarily better.

It will be interesting to revisit opinions here, in say 2 years.
I'll set my alarm....

[RickS (Rick)]

Originally Posted by RobF

It will be interesting to revisit opinions here, in say 2 years.
I'll set my alarm....

I predict that things will be much the same, Rob Let me know if I was right.

I have tried a number of software packages and would probably produce much the same dodgy images in all of them. It's a matter of using something that fits the way you work and can implement your vision. Whether that is PS or PI or Maxim or CCDStack or ... doesn't really matter.

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by LewisM

Maximum indeed. Probably 30 seconds work COMBINED, especially if you use Annie's Astro Actions or Astronomy Tools action plugins. Makes star selection about 5 seconds

This is getting ridiculous--how quickly can I do something? Maybe we should look at the end result--is it slower/quicker but does it/does it not end up with something better? As for quicker, certainly if you've recorded an action in PS you can do things quickly. But PI can also record actions and then you can also do things quickly. Big whoop!
I really get annoyed when people take a 5 minute look at PI then start knocking it when they have no idea of how to use it or no idea of its ability to improve their processing.
Geoff

[DavidTrap (David)]

Originally Posted by RickS

I have tried a number of software packages and would probably produce much the same dodgy images in all of them.

Ha!

DT