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Old 24-12-2013, 05:47 PM
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That's a sweet looking rig Marcus. I need to do some cable management too, which you images have reminded me to undertake.
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Old 29-12-2013, 10:57 AM
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That's a sweet looking rig Marcus. I need to do some cable management too, which you images have reminded me to undertake.
Thanks Paul. It's hard to make it look any prettier - there are just too many cables!
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Old 29-12-2013, 11:03 AM
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First light!!

Finally the clouds parted long enough to let in some photons!!

Sorry, no pretty pictures - just test images. See the text underneath each image for explanation. Each small panel is 5.5 x 4.3 arc minutes

In short - very pleased!

Collimation Check:
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Cheers, Marcus
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Old 29-12-2013, 11:18 AM
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Looks great, Marcus. Very flat!
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Old 29-12-2013, 12:36 PM
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Nice test images, Markus. Looking forward to first light.
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Old 29-12-2013, 03:13 PM
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Looks great, Marcus. Very flat!
Cheers Rick. I'm a bit of a reflector novice but, to my eye, those stars look pretty good too! For completeness though, I really should do an outside focus collimation series (what you see here is inside focus)

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Nice test images, Markus. Looking forward to first light.
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Thanks Allan. Buuut ... that was first light! Next step is to do a TPoint model so I can start imaging ... for real!

It's worth mentioning this again ... this is out-of-the-box collimation!!! Maybe I'm just lucky, but that's very impressive!
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Old 29-12-2013, 05:03 PM
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Finally the clouds parted long enough to let in some photons!!

Sorry, no pretty pictures - just test images. See the text underneath each image for explanation. Each small panel is 5.5 x 4.3 arc minutes

In short - very pleased!

Collimation Check:
http://upload.pbase.com/gailmarc/image/153941599/large

Star Test:
http://upload.pbase.com/gailmarc/image/153941605/large

Cheers, Marcus
Yep, I recon you can just start imaging there

Just think, you now effectively have what was a cutting edge professional scope at Siding Spring...only yours is better

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Old 29-12-2013, 08:40 PM
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Just think, you now effectively have what was a cutting edge professional scope at Siding Spring...only yours is better

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Hehe ... Yep, that one doesn't have any red on it so clearly it's not a high quality scope!
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:29 PM
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Okay, after reviewing the result, doing some reading and getting feedback from Gino in Italy on the above, some minor tweaking of collimation is required to achieve optimal performance. Now, could the person who caused the clouds and showers to roll in please step forward!

In other news, while the native, uncorrected optics are F8, I found out that the flattener used causes an increase in focal length to F8.7! I discovered that while doing my first plate solves & TPoint run (0.59 instead of 0.64 arcseconds/pixel image scale) and this has now been confirmed by Gino. This is more good than bad news for me since I'm after narrow field views!!!
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Yes those plate solves would have not worked with a change in focal length, though as you say it is a good thing to get a slightly narrower field of view. Looking toward the images Marcus. I am keen to find out what these scope are like as I see this as a likely contender to the replacement of my RC12" at some point in the future.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:11 PM
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Yes those plate solves would have not worked with a change in focal length, though as you say it is a good thing to get a slightly narrower field of view. Looking toward the images Marcus. I am keen to find out what these scope are like as I see this as a likely contender to the replacement of my RC12" at some point in the future.
It did actually work even when I told it the image scale was 0.64 - I guess the difference wasn't large enough to confuse the software.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:34 PM
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Lifting the skirt!

Here is an interesting picture. The mirror is attached to the cell (the red anodised plate) centrally. The cell also has 5 radial supports each comprising a pillar and a grub screw (highlighted) that holds a metal plastic-backed disc in contact with the side of the mirror to prevent any small radial movements of the mirror. During transport, one of the discs had come loose and fallen out - almost certainly because the grub screw wasn't tight enough. To fix this I lifted the carbon fiber tube up to reveal the cell and gain access to these pillars to replace the disk.

You'll also notice the heavy duty spring that loads the collimation screws for the main mirror. No wonder the screws are tight!!

By the way, before I did the fix for the missing radial support, my first TPoint model (126 data points) was 14.6 arcsec RMS. I guess I should probably bolt the scope to the PMEs versaplate - currently it's only attached via the dovetail and friction.
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Final collimation

I fiddled with collimation a bit last night and got it as good as I can.

It was a hot & sweaty night but the sky stabilised nicely so I took 3x5min test subs (1x1 binning) of the vicinity of NGC 3263 last night to check star shapes. There's now only very minor egg shape in the corners, mostly at the top of the frame. I'm going to call it good though!!

Each box is full res and only 2.3 x 1.7 arc minutes (ie a very small patch of sky) at 0.59 arc second/pixel. The boxes represent the extremities and middle of the frame. The 3 subs I took were dark subtracted and sum combined. They were stretched of course but no flats, decon or sharpening of any kind. Some of you might notice why I'm pretty chuffed with this raw result!
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:28 PM
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This commissioning thing never ends!! Here's how I mounted my flat panel yesterday (Gerd Neuman's Aurora Flat Panel) after a lot of head scratching.

A Vogel articulated tip/tilt wall mount monitor arm (a small one) - bought at JB HiFi plus a bit of DIY thrown in to attach it to the dome. It allows the panel to be positioned orthogonally and close to the front of the OTA. I can remove the panel and support easily. Just needs a lick of black paint now.
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Old 04-01-2014, 02:12 PM
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Oooh aren't you a clever little Vegemite

I just don't use flats - that's pretty easy

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That's a very good idea and helps keep things neat and easy to use.
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Old 04-01-2014, 03:52 PM
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This commissioning thing never ends!! Here's how I mounted my flat panel yesterday (Gerd Neuman's Aurora Flat Panel) after a lot of head scratching.
Nice idea, Marcus! Now, if only I had an obsy to hang mine on...

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Try that at f/9 Mr Smartypants
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Old 04-01-2014, 05:01 PM
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I'm after narrow field views!!!
Ha, of course you are,excellent beneficial snafu .

Following with keen interest Marcus, progressing wonderfully
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Old 04-01-2014, 05:08 PM
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Try that at f/9 Mr Smartypants
Flats at f9 ?, Nah, the longer (better) the F gets the less you need that crap. With NB at f9........ Never
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Here is an interesting picture. The mirror is attached to the cell (the red anodised plate) centrally. The cell also has 5 radial supports each comprising a pillar and a grub screw (highlighted) that holds a metal plastic-backed disc in contact with the side of the mirror to prevent any small radial movements of the mirror. During transport, one of the discs had come loose and fallen out - almost certainly because the grub screw wasn't tight enough. To fix this I lifted the carbon fiber tube up to reveal the cell and gain access to these pillars to replace the disk.

You'll also notice the heavy duty spring that loads the collimation screws for the main mirror. No wonder the screws are tight!!
Marcus - just wondering what the orange coloured things are between the mirror and the red plate (above the colimation bolt) in the second image?

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