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31-10-2013, 08:16 PM
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Pixel mining IC4628
PixinSight's weird user interface, I suspect is causing me to drink more than usual...yet the unexpected results it delivers, simply stagger me (perhaps in too many ways  )
So now I find myself going over old data that until now, hadn't presented well.
I simply needed better processing tools....with Pix being one of them.
An example of what I'm on about is linked below:
IC4628 reprocessed here
P.S.
Clearly substance abuse was going on during data capture, as I decided fishing line, placed in front of a sublime AP objective, was a good idea at the time
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31-10-2013, 09:15 PM
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so Mr Ward I take it you are liking PI? do you have the before processed shot to compare?
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31-10-2013, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
so Mr Ward I take it you are liking PI? do you have the before processed shot to compare?
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Yes...and err, yes.
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31-10-2013, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Ward
Yes...and err, yes. 
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GReeeaat! so where is it?
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31-10-2013, 11:28 PM
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So which PI routines did you use Peter?
Fishing line diffraction spikes... ACK!!! Substance abuse indeed...reckon you drank a little avtur with your scotch
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01-11-2013, 03:25 AM
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Lovely lobster Peter ! I would prefer it without spikes, but as usual that a strick matter of personal taste (and I also add spikes time to time to some objects  )
Clear skies
Marco
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01-11-2013, 08:02 AM
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Great details and dynamic range. Very sharp in the core area. Nicely done.
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01-11-2013, 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys... For David... old version here
I still finding my way with PI, hence my processing is still scatter-gun, but I have found HDRmultiscale transform/ wavelets, masking and noise reduction to be very useful .
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01-11-2013, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Ward
Thanks for the feedback guys... For David... old version here
I still finding my way with PI, hence my processing is still scatter-gun, but I have found HDRmultiscale transform/ wavelets, masking and noise reduction to be very useful .
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Massive difference with that data, not even chalk and cheese. I note the stars are tighter and smaller, the patterns and structures of the gas clouds are well defined and you have achieved a darker background whilst maintaining and increasing the gas cloud brightness. Impressed with what a difference PI makes…..
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01-11-2013, 10:46 AM
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Looking at both side by side now I like the details in the repro but just realised its dynamic range is all scrwed up, like HDR gone wrong. Maybe a compromise in between is the way to go. Details + correct luminosity.
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01-11-2013, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by multiweb
Looking at both side by side now I like the details in the repro but just realised its dynamic range is all scrwed up, like HDR gone wrong. Maybe a compromise in between is the way to go. Details + correct luminosity.
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Yep, I still need to get a better handle on PI.
.....as David would say: "respect the light".
Last edited by Peter Ward; 01-11-2013 at 02:07 PM.
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01-11-2013, 01:32 PM
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Bah! I can do that kind of thing in PS - piece of cake!  AND I don't need therapy afterwards because the PI interface induced uncontrollable facial ticks.  The question is, do I want images to look like that?
Agree with Marc. I can see why it might have mass appeal, but it's a tad overdone for me, especially if you're trying to achieve something resembling "correct" tonal relativities. Somewhere between the two might be the go to avoid the typical hyper-contrasty PI look.
Cheers, Marcus
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01-11-2013, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by marc4darkskies
Bah! I can do that kind of thing in PS - piece of cake!  AND I don't need therapy afterwards because the PI interface induced uncontrollable facial ticks.  The question is, do I want images to look like that?
Agree with Marc. I can see why it might have mass appeal, but it's a tad overdone for me, especially if you're trying to achieve something resembling "correct" tonal relativities. Somewhere between the two might be the go to avoid the typical hyper-contrasty PI look.
Cheers, Marcus
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I have a tic!? What itc? But Marcus, don't be too hasty, wait till you see the Las Vegas neon colour version
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01-11-2013, 02:35 PM
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01-11-2013, 05:12 PM
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........ You're feeling loose and not so uptight, plus, the mojo is flowing
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Yeah baby !
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01-11-2013, 07:54 PM
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Overcooked IMHO - too contrasty and the wispy details at the edges of the nebulosity are lost. PI's a definite learning curve - I'm waiting for another tutorial session with Rick! Something to satisfy one's astronomy needs during the monsoon season.
Was wondering what you'd done to create the diffraction spikes - you should be forced to give up your scope for such sacrilegious behaviour!
DT
Last edited by DavidTrap; 01-11-2013 at 07:54 PM.
Reason: typo
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01-11-2013, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidTrap
Overcooked IMHO - too contrasty and the wispy details at the edges of the nebulosity are lost. PI's a definite learning curve - I'm waiting for another tutorial session with Rick! Something to satisfy one's astronomy needs during the monsoon season.
Was wondering what you'd done to create the diffraction spikes - you should be forced to give up your scope for such sacrilegious behaviour!
DT
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Fair 'nuff. Frank and fearless. I like that!
Well...at least they were physical diffraction spikes...and not the Photoshop variety.
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