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Old 21-08-2013, 11:43 AM
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What Is Unnatural?

Recently I visited my Daughter in Albury NSW. We did a small sight seeing tour. At a Beechworth shop I found this "Natural Salt" on the shelf.
What then is artificial salt or unnatural salt? Does artificial salt exist?
Also I doubt if anyone would refine sodium and chlorine and combine the two in commercial sized quantities. That would make quite a bang.

Salt comes from either the sea, mining or salt lakes. Whether its refined or in its original state its still salt KCl and NaCl.

Its rather misleading

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Old 21-08-2013, 11:47 AM
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I'm surprised they didn't chuck in the word organic as well.
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:49 AM
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I'm surprised they didn't chuck in the word organic as well.
Just wait... it will happen, surely There are more and more followers of macrobiotic diet recently..
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:59 AM
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$19.80 for salt... people have rocks in their heads.

I still laugh when I see "Organic eggs". I sure hope so, though I do know there are fake/artificial eggs made in China, sold as real eggs (I fail to see the reason why anyone bothered!)

A few companies recently got into trouble for labelling their water as "Organic". LOL
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:49 PM
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Ha ha , JJJ , organic , but I think you will find that ordinary table salt from the supermarket has Iodine in it , like most drinking water has fluorine in it , this is probably just rock salt ,, less is more $$$ in this case , I would pass , I think $20 is a rip off .
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Old 21-08-2013, 01:24 PM
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I always used to buy the iodised salt.
And actually, looking back, I'm not sure it did me any good what so ever, considering they had to remove my thyroid entirely a while ago. Now I'm wondering if it's actually the cause of my iodine allergy? Might have to do some research into that.
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Old 21-08-2013, 01:34 PM
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I have seen "Organic Salt" and for that matter "Organic Water", I have also seen sodium reduce salt (they replace it with Potassium Chloride I think), Light Salt. Anything the to make a buck I guess.
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Old 21-08-2013, 02:42 PM
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I have seen "Organic Salt" and for that matter "Organic Water", I have also seen sodium reduce salt (they replace it with Potassium Chloride I think), Light Salt. Anything the to make a buck I guess.
Funny thing Roger.

Is, if they say it is Organic, then by chemical definition

it would have to contain Carbon, at least. KCL. NaCL.

Where's the Carbon!!

They should be had for false advertising!!
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Old 21-08-2013, 03:11 PM
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They should be had for false advertising!!
Its better than truth in advertising.
I bought some salted peanuts recently and it had the std allergy warning on it that it may contain "traces of nuts"

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Old 21-08-2013, 03:21 PM
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Its better than truth in advertising.
I bought some salted peanuts recently and it had the std allergy warning on it that it may contain "traces of nuts"

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Love that one. Haw!
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Old 21-08-2013, 03:55 PM
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Does anyone remember making NaCl (common salt) in school science.
Sodium hydroxide (diliute) and Hydrochloric acid (dilute). Mix them till the litmus paper was purple then boil off the water till the salt xtals precipitated.

Gee that was 65 years ago I suspect that those chemicals are far to dangerous to let students near these days.

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Old 21-08-2013, 04:37 PM
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Whatever you do, make sure your salt is 100% fat-free!

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Old 21-08-2013, 05:17 PM
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Funny thing Roger.

Is, if they say it is Organic, then by chemical definition

it would have to contain Carbon, at least. KCL. NaCL.

Where's the Carbon!!

They should be had for false advertising!!
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As a chemist and a pedant (sorry) I have to point out that the chemicals you describe are made of potassium or sodium, carbon and some element whose symbol is L - possibly you mean lithium or lanthanum . Common salts are KCl and NaCl. Also, while it is necessary that a compound contain carbon to be considered organic, not everything that contains carbon is considered organic eg carbon dioxide, carbonates, cyanide and ferricyanates. (Just nod you head in agreement and I promise to disappear.)
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Old 21-08-2013, 05:44 PM
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Also, why should anything man-made be considered unnatural? By the same token a birds nest or fox burrow would be unnatural.

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Old 21-08-2013, 11:12 PM
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As a chemist and a pedant (sorry) I have to point out that the chemicals you describe are made of potassium or sodium, carbon and some element whose symbol is L - possibly you mean lithium or lanthanum . Common salts are KCl and NaCl. Also, while it is necessary that a compound contain carbon to be considered organic, not everything that contains carbon is considered organic eg carbon dioxide, carbonates, cyanide and ferricyanates. (Just nod you head in agreement and I promise to disappear.)
Yes! Gotta stop capitalising those l's.
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:40 PM
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Pathology hat on - iodine deficiency is actually becoming a problem again in Australia due to the propensity for people to stock up on exotic sea salts for cooking and table use - particularly of concern in pregnant women. The good old iodine fortified table salt is all you need to keep your thryoid hormones at a healthy level alas.
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Go to the supermarket and find vegetables and then organic vegetables.
What's the difference?

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Old 22-08-2013, 07:06 AM
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Go to the supermarket and find vegetables and then organic vegetables.
What's the difference?

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The price.

You'll pay more for something that hasn't been gassed or soaked in who knows what concoction of chemicals.
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Old 22-08-2013, 08:20 AM
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Go to the supermarket and find vegetables and then organic vegetables.
What's the difference?

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Labelling. And price, of course..
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Old 22-08-2013, 08:29 AM
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Interesting about the iodine deficiency.

Organise farmers jump through hopps to get their certification. It means no chemical pesticides, natural fertilisers, no chemical insect sprays.

Usually you can taste the difference between true organic and non organic.

It costs more because its harder to do, the organic solutions are more expensive and probably more losses. A friend turned his orchard into organice and it was quite an ordeal. But that's what it takes to get pesticides out of the food chain.

I don't think organic salt meets that criteria - its not grown for one thing.

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