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Old 02-08-2013, 03:50 PM
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M7

M7 is an open cluster of stars in the constellation of Scorpius, easily detectable with the naked eye from a dark sky location. M7 has been known since antiquity, being first recorded by the 1st-century Greek-Roman astronomer Ptolemy, who described it as a nebula in 130 AD.

This image however was captured on Wednesday night (31 July) with my Vixen VC200L (with f6.4 reducer) and an astro-modded Canon 1000D

60 x 2min dithered and calibrated subs at ISO1600. Processed with PixInsight 1.8

Hi res here: http://www.astrobin.com/full/50231/?mod=none

Dont normally shoot star clusters, so any comments/criticism/advice are most welcome
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:07 PM
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Looks really nice. Star color's great.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:10 PM
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Thanks Marc. I'm hoping that first light with your old 130mm newt will be next week. Am looking forward to the more wide-field view at 650mm FL
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:20 PM
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Thanks Marc. I'm hoping that first light with your old 130mm newt will be next week. Am looking forward to the more wide-field view at 650mm FL
That's the one.
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Really love the colours in this.

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:35 PM
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POW! This image delivers an abrupt wake up call. Excellent work Richard, you certainly got the message across. The open cluster is beautifully rendered against the golden star cloud backdrop. Well done. More please.
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Star colours are superb!
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love the star colour & clarity
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Nice image Richard. Out of curiosity, would like to see the result at iso 800 or 400 with longer integration time.
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The colours make this striking with blue diamonds on a bed of orange brown.

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Old 02-08-2013, 06:53 PM
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Thanks for the nice comments everyone. Agree that colours are kinda 'IN YOUR FACE!!" but does give it a bit more "punch" which I quite like here.

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Out of curiosity, would like to see the result at iso 800 or 400 with longer integration time.
From a full well perspective that would have no effect. 2mins at ISO1600 uses up just as much of the well as 4mins at ISO800, as the gain is double at ISO1600. So no improvement from a star colour perspective there.

I did a little experiment a month or so ago with this camera to establish the relative SNR of different ISO and sub durations. ISO1600 comes out ahead of ISO400 and ISO800 for all of the sub durations tested (see attached). I used 2min subs for this image as a) I already had a dark master at this sub length, and b) it would give me lots of subs for the total integration time, and as the subs were dithered it would help to further improve SNR. I also left the scope unattended during this run, so I wanted to ensure I would have as many useable subs as possible (and in the end, i used all of them). FYI I have not actually applied any noise reduction to the image in the original post.

also, based in this experiment, I am now using ISO1600 for all targets now with this camera.
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Beautiful work. Perhaps the nicest M7 image I've seen. It's hard to make those stars really stand out but you've nailed it!

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Lovely work Richard...looks like you can image star clusters then?

Sooo where's the comparison with my image

Kidding, kidding...

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Sooo where's the comparison with my image

Kidding, kidding...
I didn't realise you have a M7 in your collection...

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Richard, your photo is absolutely very nice. Color, star shape, sharp, focus, field. And with a DSLR.
As you ask for comments, I always shoot star clusters and some people ask me about sensibility (high ISO or long exposure) when the cluster vanishes beneath other stars in the field.
M7 is well because the main stars have high luminosity, but with others cluster this is a matter to care.

Globular cluster is another very difficult. Normally the core can suffer saturation.
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Really nice...

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M7 is an open cluster of stars in the constellation of Scorpius, easily detectable with the naked eye from a dark sky location. M7 has been known since antiquity, being first recorded by the 1st-century Greek-Roman astronomer Ptolemy, who described it as a nebula in 130 AD.

This image however was captured on Wednesday night (31 July) with my Vixen VC200L (with f6.4 reducer) and an astro-modded Canon 1000D

60 x 2min dithered and calibrated subs at ISO1600. Processed with PixInsight 1.8

Hi res here: http://www.astrobin.com/full/50231/?mod=none

Dont normally shoot star clusters, so any comments/criticism/advice are most welcome
Excellent color balance! I really like this one and it was done with a simple SLR, hat off!

Clear skies
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:55 PM
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Beautiful photo Richard.

Love the colours.

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Old 07-08-2013, 10:50 AM
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Nice Richard, this is on my list of objects to get imaged. I was just looking at this object last night and working out which orientation I wanted. There are a few dark nebula nearby and worth incorporating into this fine image. I like the saturation. Maybe just ease back on the cyan in the blue stars, but that is personal preference.
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