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Old 02-04-2008, 05:21 PM
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48" for visual is a bit nuts when you consider that the lowest magnification where the average human eye can make use of the full aperture is around 200x! But hey, if I had the chance to look through it, I'd step over my mother to do so!
Hi Steve,

In Texas last year we were lucky enough to be looking at M51 through Larry Mitchell's 36".
How could I best describe it? Sure, I've seen lots of mind-boggling great
astrophotographs, including right here on IceInSpace, but no photograph could
compare with that stunning view in real-time with your own eye. It's a bit like
the difference between looking at the postcards of some place and actually being
there and seeing it for yourself. I joked to Larry that I didn't think the amazing view
really had anything to do with aperture, it is simply because by the time you have
climbed to the top of the ladder on these monster scopes, you are just that
much closer to whatever you are looking at.

M51 is about 11.2' x 6.9' so it would still probably make a great target in 48".

One thing that is commonplace with American observers is the use of step ladders
with half-steps. In other words, the steps are spaced at half the normal distance,
so there are twice as many of them for any given length ladder. These types
of half-step ladders make the climb up and down just that little bit more
reassuring, but I note they aren't common on observing fields in Australia.

Anyway, hope you get the chance to look through some serious aperture
without having to trample over family members for the opportunity.

Best Regards

Gary
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:46 PM
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Gary thank you for saving my marriage by killing my aperture fever. the potential for the monster is incredible. this is such a tacky question but i am curious in an academic sort of way, in round numbers what is the cost?
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Gary,

Just for curiosity sake if you know, what would the estimated limmiting Magnitude be for a scope this size. I know Peter's 30 inch is around 17.5 visually but this sucker must be at least another 1 to 2 magnitudes more. The 30 inch has some mind blowing views through it and is the biggest dob I have looked through but this thing has over 2.5 X the light collecting areaof the 30 inch.

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This wouldn't happen to be Peter Robbins 30"? it has a spectacular mirror
in it and is the largst visual scope I have looked through too.... awesome!!!

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Gary,

Just for curiosity sake if you know, what would the estimated limmiting Magnitude be for a scope this size. I know Peter's 30 inch is around 17.5 visually but this sucker must be at least another 1 to 2 magnitudes more. The 30 inch has some mind blowing views through it and is the biggest dob I have looked through but this thing has over 2.5 X the light collecting areaof the 30 inch.

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Old 04-04-2008, 09:54 PM
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Yep, its Peter Robbins 30 inch, when you look at eta carina through it you loose your night vision for a few moments then its hard to climb down that ladder because you are dazzled.

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The primary mirror itself was supplied by Yuri Petrunin at the Telescope Engineering Company in Russia.
Just to nitpick, while Yuri is of Russian heritage TEC is an American company based IIRC in Colorado. They are better known for making APO refractors but it seems Yuri also does custom mirror jobs.
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Gary,

Just for curiosity sake if you know, what would the estimated limmiting Magnitude be for a scope this size. I know Peter's 30 inch is around 17.5 visually but this sucker must be at least another 1 to 2 magnitudes more. The 30 inch has some mind blowing views through it and is the biggest dob I have looked through but this thing has over 2.5 X the light collecting areaof the 30 inch.

Matt.
Hi Matt,

With the right conditions, possibly 19th mag or better.

Jimi lives at a good dark sky site in the south-west of Texas, only a few miles away
from the 9.2m segmented mirror Hobby-Eberly Telescope, so it will be sited
at a good location.

Indeed, Peter's 30" f/4.8" SDM is a wonderful scope to look through ... and look at!

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Old 07-04-2008, 01:43 PM
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Gary thank you for saving my marriage by killing my aperture fever. the potential for the monster is incredible. this is such a tacky question but i am curious in an academic sort of way, in round numbers what is the cost?
Brian
Hi Brian!

Mabuhai!

You are welcome.

I don't believe the price has been publicly released and it would be really up to Jimi
if he wanted the figure to be known. Suffice to say, it is not cheap.

Combined with a new house and custom designed observatory being built on a new
parcel of land, along with accessories such as a scissor-lift for the observer to ride in,
it is a substantial investment into a life-style that for many observing enthusiasts
would be like a dream come true.

Rest assured the owner is just as excited as we would be and this scope will
be well used and well loved.

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Old 07-04-2008, 05:34 PM
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The aluminium plate just for those side bearings is more cash than I care to think of...so the glass for these big scopes has to be a made to order ? you'd nearlly have to be heading up towards 100 without to much trouble .

So who wants to throw in and we'll get one
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Congrats Argo & Great scope Jimi!

Hey Astro Heads!

That's enough scope for me! http://www.opticalmechanics.com/
What a fine job OM has done! You know this thingz going to be
hard too top!

Aloha Lance aka "abellhunter"

http://www.anzaobservatory.com

...is Moving to the Southern Hemisphere any ideas, suggestions or
comments?
humphreys@greencafe.com

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p.s. Regarding "nightstalker" ; "So who wants to throw in and we'll get one "

See:

Large Group Scope &/or The new OZ Observatory plan [see post #35]
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=27969

and:

As some of you know allready i am looking to build
an observatory and move the ARSENAL down under!
See post #354
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=65


Looking for a new project!

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