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Old 14-06-2010, 05:45 PM
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Wide Field...

I've just received my tripod for my Canon 30D, I have the EFS 17-85mm lens. I don't have a remote timer yet. how long can the exposure be? also anybody know what settings and steps I should take?

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Depends on where your shooting Tony. You can get a good approximation of exposure time by following these guides.

Close to the Celestial equator; exp time = 700/ Focal length. So if you are using 85mm then you can expose for about 8 sec.

If you are shooting towards the pole then Exp = 1000/ FL
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Old 14-06-2010, 06:19 PM
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I wanna try the southern cross... Inspired by Jeanette
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At 85 mm then you could go for around 12 sec
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What ISO should i use? also is there anyone here with a 30D experience? I can't find a manual that says how to
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anybody have any idea on how to change the exposure?
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http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/30d.htm
Here you go Tony.
It has a link to the official Canon 30d manual as well as a "plain english" version of the manual.
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If you're using a 30D then use a fairly high ISO but I'd suggest you try it with ICNR. If you want to do star trails then leave ICNR off and take and apply darks later
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right, i had a fiddle with the camera and im not sure if i have it. the setting is on Tv and i think it was set to 13". I dont think there is a 12. I had a go outside and the results are as shown as below. I think I did something wrong there...I dont know what. its just a gut feeling.
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You'll need to change to Manual mode instead of Tv.
You have some camera shake there. You can eliminate that by using the time function. Set it for 5 seconds. That will give the camera time to settle down after clicking the button.
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right thanks jjj... i have a nooby question what are "darks"?
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right thanks jjj... i have a nooby question what are "darks"?
Have a look at the article: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-211-0-0-1-0.html
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Need more light mate

For starters ;

iso 1600

go into M mode. Set shutter to 30secs. Set Aperture to the lowest f number it can go to.

point up and let it rip. btw set the self timer to 10secs to help settle down any vibration after you press the shutter.

Theres a lot more to it than that but that'll get you going.
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right, finally some results...

Here are some pics i tool while i was waiting for my dob to cool... i had a fiddle with the camera and i think i got it okay... it is horrible cos its not focused properly and i hate myself for that. you can just barely make out the colours...

i just want to thank all the people here which lead me to the dark side of imaging... I shall forever be cursed in buying lenses now...
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Yay!
You'll have to cut your exposure time down a little now Tony. Got to get rid of the trailing.
You do need to concentrate on getting your focus too, as you know.
Take short, 8 second exposures, zoom in on the LCD screen on the camera and check. Adjust focus, then zoom in again to see if it has improved. Keep doing that, until you can't get it any better. It takes time, I know, but well worth it to capture a pleasing image.
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You could put together a two plank hand driven barn door, a basic equatorial mount, and fix it to your tripod, which would give you about 5 - 10 minutes of reasonable tracking, providing it's polar aligned reasonably well. That might give you a few more photons and improve overall results - trailing and such. Doesn't have to be an expensive solution.

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im not that good rcheshire...
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I don't believe that for a moment

A couple of members suggested using live view for focus - if you have it.

The way they do it, is to get focus through the view finder, as best as possible, and then select live view and increase magnification to 10x and readjust. But we were discussing photographing the moon. Can't see why it wouldn't work on a bright star.

I haven't tried it yet, too much rain.
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im not that good rcheshire...
LOLOL
I made a barn door tracker Tony.
it really is very easy to make a basic model.
I'll see if I can find mine at the other house. If it hasn't been broken, or is at least in repairable condition, you're welcome to it.
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I don't believe that for a moment

A couple of members suggested using live view for focus - if you have it.

The way they do it, is to get focus through the view finder, as best as possible, and then select live view and increase magnification to 10x and readjust. But we were discussing photographing the moon. Can't see why it wouldn't work on a bright star.

I haven't tried it yet, too much rain.
30Ds don't have live views ... one of the downside of having 30Ds...
JJJ, i don't want to pry, or anything. If you might use it at all, than i can't take it...
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