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Old 16-03-2025, 12:47 PM
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Working as a forklift technician (TNT Forklifts) in the 80s and 90s in Sydney (Mascot) at the end of daylight savings the job got dangerous. Heavy machinery and dark don't mix, especially when you're crawling under something which if it dropped/fell off the forklift you picked it up with and had to get under with a torch to see it was properly supported (big forklifts lifting little things) it was instant death in near pitch black (if it wouldn't move in the yard). Even just moving the forklifts around in the yard was a major hazard because most don't have lighting, again, hit someone with one and they escape with serious injury at best. We had good lighting in the factory, not so in the yard.

We also did military vehicles and equipment from the airport around the corner, mostly heavy machinery but anything with hydraulics and an engine/electric drive.
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Old 17-03-2025, 04:19 PM
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Now that I'm retired, I have created a new time zone, JEST or Joe's Eastern Standard Time. The time zone boundary and my property boundary are the coincident. Clocks inside the house remain set at UT+10 + 10 year round. The idea came from my friends the Ogilvy Family who own a property in South Australia next to Cameron Corner. Their property is bigger than Luxembourg and so, with infrequent contact with the outside world, they figured they could have their own, constant time zone rather than SA time.

There are some practical reasons for this, I am not a complete Luddite. I have a beautiful Seiko Quartz clock bought by my parents in the 1970's. Brass body and analogue hands.

A single AA battery lasts about 3-4 years and it only loses a few seconds over that period. The time change knob was missing when I came into possession of it after my parents passed. So setting it means waiting until the time catches up to the clock. I can only be bothered to do this every 3-4 years when I have to replace the battery.

I have another faceless wall clock (arms only) stuck to my wall with a removable adhesive. I assembled the clock from a clock kit I bought online. Again, I can't be bothered detaching the clock until the battery needs to be replaced every few years.

Finally I can easily add an hour during summer months. I moderate another astronomy forum and work with a team of moderators and admins scattered around the world. Consequently, I am frequently doing mental arithmetic working out who is sleeping and who is awake on the team or setting delayed publication of my astronomy quizzes to publish at midnight, 1st of the month in California ensuring that it's the new month for everyone bar a couple of members in Hawaii.

Subtracting one hour is the easiest of the calculations I do.


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Old 17-03-2025, 04:51 PM
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I am frequently doing mental arithmetic working out who is sleeping and who is awake

You don't keep a naughty and nice list or have a beard too?
Sorry, I couldn't help myself!
The arithmetic is quite easy and my son somewhat annoys people all around the world he chats online with (text, he can't hear/Discord) by knowing their time close to the minute. He even told some American online acquaintances recently it was their daylight savings and they themselves didn't know that.
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Old 17-03-2025, 09:25 PM
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Simple... get up an hour later according to the clock; you get to sleep in, every day !
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Old 18-03-2025, 07:42 PM
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Daylight Saving is only really a major problem for recreational astronomers who work for a living. It means that if they want to go viewing the night before a work day, they have an hour's less viewing time (unless they get permission from their boss to come in an hour late for work).

I think Daylight Saaving is healthy.
It forces most people to do activities with an extra hour of sunlight, which means more Vitamin D in the body, than they would hAVe had.

Also, we're a country that likes going to the beach. With Daylight Saving people have more opportunity to go to the beach after a hot day's work.
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DST does not add any extra sunlight. It is us who are addicted to numbers which the clocks show. Just getting up and going to bed earlier solves this problem and any individual can do this whatever amount of minutes he wants to get up earlier.
Forcing a twice a year clock change is indeed wat TO says. great rubbish !
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Old 21-03-2025, 06:42 AM
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DST does not add any extra sunlight. It is us who are addicted to numbers which the clocks show. Just getting up and going to bed earlier solves this problem and any individual can do this whatever amount of minutes he wants to get up earlier.
Forcing a twice a year clock change is indeed wat TO says. great rubbish !
Daylight Saving does add an extra hour of sunlight, because the governments and employers force workers to go to work an hour earlier, and then they have an extra hour of sunlight when they finish work.The same applies to students.

True, in non-Daylight Saving States, people could get up an hour earlier and wander around in sunlight to get their extra hour of sunlight before going to work. But I suspect that would be a tiny minority.
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Old 21-03-2025, 09:27 AM
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Growing up on the Gold Coast, dealing with DST was, and still is, an annoying routine.
Getting rid of DST should have been done decades ago by ACT, NSW and VIC, but political WON'Tpower in those states/territory, prevents that from happening.
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Old 21-03-2025, 09:37 AM
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Daylight Saving does add an extra hour of sunlight, because the governments and employers force workers to go to work an hour earlier, and then they have an extra hour of sunlight when they finish work.The same applies to students.

True, in non-Daylight Saving States, people could get up an hour earlier and wander around in sunlight to get their extra hour of sunlight before going to work. But I suspect that would be a tiny minority.
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Magic ?

Never realize that the sun also rises an hour later which make darker mornings ?

Well, politicians are too dumb to underdtand that.
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