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Old 15-10-2021, 09:31 AM
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PHD's What are the good for?

A rather amusing story in the news today of a woman with a PhD believing she has a right to issue Vaccine exemption certificates even though her PhD is not in Medicine.

This made me recall a conversation with a work colleague whom mentioned to me that his family was pressuring him to complete a Doctorate .. apparently he is the only one in his family whom hasn't completed one and doesn't have the title of 'Dr' but he sees no real need to .. he is employed in a well paid job in the field he loves.

Soooo ... any IIS members here have completed a Doctorate ... if so why and has it opened up any promotion or extended positions your Bachelors Degree couldn't or hasn't?

Lets keep this a fun discussion ... its not about COVID or Vaccines.
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Old 15-10-2021, 09:57 AM
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Maybe your colleague's family know the great feeling that comes from completing a body of work like that?
Maybe they see him as someone who hasn't extended or tested himself fully yet and know the satisfaction he will get from it.

Maybe they're a bunch of superficial jerks who are embarrassed of his super basic prefix.

Hard to tell, especially since I don't know them, but families can be a good source of both aggravation and truth when it comes to their members.

One thing is for sure... not everyone has the goal of a better job, promotion, etc when going to uni for a higher degree. Its a personal thing.

A minor quibble, since I love a quibble, is that a PhD and a doctorate, in Australia at least, are two different things.
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A rather amusing story ...
OK here's another . (Sorry Hans, I couldn't resist ) ....
https://youtu.be/9UZWfMgjqAs

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Old 15-10-2021, 10:19 AM
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OK here's another . (Sorry Hans, I couldn't resist ) ....
https://youtu.be/9UZWfMgjqAs

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I will see your Spies Like Us and Raise you a Big Bang Theory

https://youtu.be/Q-c4iS454WA
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Old 15-10-2021, 10:46 AM
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Nice One Hans. I hadn't seen that one before. It seemed as though it was going to go along the same lines as the Spies Like Us, but took at turn - Excellent all the same

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Old 15-10-2021, 10:58 AM
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OK here's another . (Sorry Hans, I couldn't resist ) ....
https://youtu.be/9UZWfMgjqAs

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I will see your Spies Like Us and Raise you a Big Bang Theory

https://youtu.be/Q-c4iS454WA


Okay Hans, I call....
I have a pair...
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Old 15-10-2021, 11:02 AM
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Okay Hans, I call....
I have a pair...
I have the same pair but I raise you a Zeiss APO Binoviewer.
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Old 15-10-2021, 11:04 AM
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I have the same pair but I raise you a Zeiss APO Binoviewer.
I fold...

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Old 15-10-2021, 11:14 AM
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RB ...Feels more like an Arms Race

https://9gag.com/gag/anjz3Vq
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Old 15-10-2021, 11:16 AM
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Wow, you boys have a nice pair. I would like to use either of them just saying.

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Old 15-10-2021, 11:20 AM
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Man, this thread took a wrong turn.
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Old 15-10-2021, 12:25 PM
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It did Phil, sorry, just getting back a RB, he usually sticks it up me, don't ya Andrew.

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Old 15-10-2021, 12:40 PM
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It did Phil, sorry, just getting back a RB, he usually sticks it up me, don't ya Andrew.

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Old 15-10-2021, 12:57 PM
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Old 15-10-2021, 01:12 PM
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Man, this thread took a wrong turn.
Yes ... yes it did

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PHD is good for guiding

I have a PHD in Dumbarseology
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Old 15-10-2021, 05:43 PM
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PHD is good for guiding

I have a PHD in Dumbarseology
Your Thesis must have been an interesting read.
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Your Thesis must have been an interesting read.

It was quite sh!tty actually. Crappy writing, foul grammar, and p!$$ poor referencing. I was accused of plagiarism, but that was just a fart in a bathtub.
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Excuse me if I try to answer this seriously. One distinction I have heard between an undergrad degree (or coursework masters) and a research degree is that one involves reading books while the other involves writing them.

A PhD is a prerequisite for some jobs and a great advantage in others. To get a job as a academic you will need a PhD, a solid publication record, probably a period as a post-doctoral researcher and a record of winning competitive funding grants. These days a PhD is a distinct advantage even to get a jobs as a general staff. These jobs won't use the PhD knowledge directly but it gives the applicant a great advantage. It proves that you are a organised, efficient and effective person who can tackle and master new challenges.

I also know graduates who work for Geoscience Australia, CSIRO , the Australia Museum, one who is head geologist for a mining company and another who was. Any company that undertakes technological research will employ PhD graduates, in fact they will often fund PhD scholarships for specific research topics. I know two geologist who were funded by resource companies and the support they had would turn a uni-based student green. One even had his own workforce to do the leg work for him. Sadly this type of support is less common in Australia than it should be , but that's another discussion.
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Excuse me if I try to answer this seriously. One distinction I have heard between an undergrad degree (or coursework masters) and a research degree is that one involves reading books while the other involves writing them.

A PhD is a prerequisite for some jobs and a great advantage in others. To get a job as a academic you will need a PhD, a solid publication record, probably a period as a post-doctoral researcher and a record of winning competitive funding grants. These days a PhD is a distinct advantage even to get a jobs as a general staff. These jobs won't use the PhD knowledge directly but it gives the applicant a great advantage. It proves that you are a organised, efficient and effective person who can tackle and master new challenges.

I also know graduates who work for Geoscience Australia, CSIRO , the Australia Museum, one who is head geologist for a mining company and another who was. Any company that undertakes technological research will employ PhD graduates, in fact they will often fund PhD scholarships for specific research topics. I know two geologist who were funded by resource companies and the support they had would turn a uni-based student green. One even had his own workforce to do the leg work for him. Sadly this type of support is less common in Australia than it should be , but that's another discussion.



A PhD can also be a handicap in finding work.
There are not too many jobs for such people and
sometimes they are short term gigs -
till the research money runs out.
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