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Old 25-07-2012, 04:02 PM
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Thats right Paul , I for one have got a lot of gear from Andrews and Bintel over the years and have never had a problem , I would rather pay a little more and get piece of mind on shipping , a good return policy and buying local helps these companies survive , can you imagine if either one of these companies went under ? it woulkd be a sad day for amateure astronomy in Australia ,
Buy Local mate .
Its in every ones intrests to do so . .
Oh yea , prices have never been so good .
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Anyone with any brains will try and purchase from the lowest price, best value vendor - but to think that you can somehow circumvent the entire GST, shipping and retail thing is foolish.

I for one don't know how Bintel and other specialty retailers in Australia have managed to stick around. I certainly would not want to be a small business owner in the current environment.

I think you need to recognise that you can't have it both ways - ie, buy straight from the vendor, pay no GST, or shipping cost, and yet somehow have access to great gear and an expanding community. There's a bit of give and take required here, from both sides.
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Old 25-07-2012, 04:05 PM
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, now there is a growth industry for some one wanting to start one ...
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They do have an interesting mould 4th down on the left hand side.
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Old 26-07-2012, 07:28 AM
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What about buying second hand from overseas? I wouldn't imagine that would incur GST. I'm going to buy a G 11 in November and I have family in Vancouver, and Scotland. the price is much cheaper over there than over here, about 1500 cheaper. If I got someone over there to buy it and then post it over as if second hand, surely GST would not apply?
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Old 26-07-2012, 08:05 AM
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GST has applied to everything I have bought from overseas. New or used. They won't miss that one now thanks to the likes of Gerry Harvey having a bleat about online sales.

I think Bintel have been more actively trying to match overseas online pricing recently, I would buy from them if I could, but they don't carry some of the gear I want.

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Old 26-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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GST has applied to everything I have bought from overseas. New or used. They won't miss that one now thanks to the likes of Gerry Harvey having a bleat about online sales.

I think Bintel have been more actively trying to match overseas online pricing recently, I would buy from them if I could, but they don't carry some of the gear I want.

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Agreed, suppport local suppliers if you can, most of them are very knowledgable and agreeable to price discount/matching.
GST only applies to new items and not used items. For imported good (new or used), there is a $1000 limit on the purchase before GST and import duty. So if you buy good valued at $800 say, regardless of new or used, it wont attract GST or import duty. But if you buy an used scope for $1500, then it will attract GST and import duty. Shipping and insurnace is not included in the $1000 assessment.
See here http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5...exceedingA1000
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Old 26-07-2012, 10:18 AM
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GST has applied to everything I have bought from overseas. New or used. They won't miss that one now thanks to the likes of Gerry Harvey having a bleat about online sales.......
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NO GST is applied for imports under $1,000 end of story

over that amount GST is applied on the amount over $1,000

say item is $1,100 GST is applied to the $100 = $10
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Old 26-07-2012, 12:00 PM
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GST applies to the whole amount including shipping/insurance charge (if the total value is over $1000):

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GST is paid on the Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI).

The VoTI is the sum of:

the Customs value (Cval)
transport and insurance cost (or postage and insurance) (T&I)
any duty payable, plus
WET (if applicable).
From: http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp
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Old 26-07-2012, 12:05 PM
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Shipping and insurnace is not included in the $1000 assessment.
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over that amount GST is applied on the amount over $1,000
Last time i enquired, ALL costs were added to the purchase cost
for the purposes of the $1000 limit, and it applied to the total value,
not just the bit above $1000

Just saw this bit,
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/impor...dGSTcalculated

and it seems to still be the same.
Although the weasel words arent 100% specific on when
the $1000 limit applies. ( I was "told" it was the lot,
so $950 goods + 100 shipping got you
but $950 + 40$ shipping didnt.
Need a lawyer to understand it all.


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Old 26-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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Speaking from personal experience, my scope costed $950 and shipping and insurance was $350. The GSTapo didn't come knocking on my door.
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Old 26-07-2012, 12:17 PM
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I've seen vendors write a lower value on the CN22 declaration ... without any prompting by me, not that those items were anywhere near the GST limit anyway.
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Is that a knock i hear on your door

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Old 26-07-2012, 01:11 PM
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NO GST is applied for imports under $1,000 end of story

over that amount GST is applied on the amount over $1,000

say item is $1,100 GST is applied to the $100 = $10
Anyone please explain, if I buy $3000 new/used items+ 300 shipping by USPS; i pay 200 as 10% GST on 3000-1000=2000 and no duties????

Do CA/NY/OK.. online sellers like Astronomics, BHPhoto..etc in USA charge/NOT charge overseas buyes state tax/duty/VAT..etc??? or it varies/depends???

also from where I pay GST and collect from??
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Old 26-07-2012, 01:39 PM
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Anyone please explain, if I buy $3000 new/used items+ 300 shipping by USPS; i pay 200 as 10% GST on 3000-1000=2000 and no duties????

Do CA/NY/OK.. online sellers like Astronomics, BHPhoto..etc in USA charge/NOT charge overseas buyes state tax/duty/VAT..etc??? or it varies/depends???

also from where I pay GST and collect from??
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if the total is over $1000, you pay GST on the entire amount, including shipping and insurance charges. So if your goods costs $3000 and shipping and insurance is another $500, you pay $350 GST. Have a read of the Customs site links very carefully.
I don't recommend buying over $1000 on personal import, as the forms can be confusing.
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Old 26-07-2012, 01:43 PM
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GST is applied to the item cost (if over $1K) plus shipping/handling cost.

So if item = $3K shipping = $300, GST payable is on $3.3K. Customs will contact you to pay GST. Sometimes customs slaps an inspection fee on top of all this as well.

$300 shipping on $3K appears a bit low you will need to insure the items as well.

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Oh many/most big US/OS suppliers will not sell equipment like Tak/Celestron/Meade etc, new, to OS markets as they have commercial agreements not to do so.

To add to this...this is one of the reasons I said buying OS for a newbie is not for the feint hearted.
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Old 26-07-2012, 04:10 PM
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hmmm..I am confused..

wanted to buy Mewlon210, cant afford..

i am an ASV member, but the place and 8pm start time is far now; after i work f/t near airport and ring rd traffic.. ..(i cant drive well at night)

may i request, has anyone 20~30km from CBD got some time from 5~7pm to show/intro me few astro gears as that i can be more clear wat i need to do or i am wishing to much....!?
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