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Old 21-03-2008, 12:24 PM
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Melbourne true south

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Does anyone know the deviation between magnetic south and true south for Melbourne/Latrobe Valley area.

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Old 21-03-2008, 12:28 PM
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It's 11 degrees.

I'm not on my ususal PC, but there are websites (I think the USGS (US Geological Survey) website) that you can plug in lat/long and get the figure.
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Old 21-03-2008, 02:09 PM
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Thanks very much Turbo.

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Old 22-03-2008, 08:46 AM
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That's 11 degrees to the East, or to your left when facing south.
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Old 22-03-2008, 08:51 AM
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Finding true south magnetically can be influenced by anything magnetic nearby. An alternate method is to use a vertical stick at solar noon and note the direction of the shadow as per this post.
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Old 22-03-2008, 01:17 PM
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The easiest and probably most accurate way is here: http://www.ga.gov.au/oracle/geomag/agrfform.jsp

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Old 25-03-2008, 10:45 PM
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I set mine for 11.5 which when using a convertor (EQ to Alt-Az) most object are within the finderscope FOV.
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That's 11 degrees to the East, or to your left when facing south.
Magnetic north is east of true north. So when facing south magnetic south is to the right of true south. You can buy compasses which allow you to adjust this offset (it's called magnetic declination) in the compass so you just point the compass to south.
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I am new to this and it dont seem so easy.
I live in Rockingham W.A. and want to find true south. I have been to the Government site shown above and it gives me a reading of -4.634, however, someone else told me that I should point my compass due magnetic south and then the true south would be 12 degrees to the east of that. If the declination says -4.634, is that the difference, or 12 degrees. Is the -4.634 degrees or some other measurement.

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Old 18-02-2011, 07:03 PM
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Colin, my Aeronautical Chart shows 2 degrees west, the same as the current listing for Jandakot.
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Try here:
http://www.ga.gov.au/oracle/geomag/agrfform.jsp

If a ball park value is enough use the declination images at the tag:
http://www.ga.gov.au/oracle/geomag/a...jsp#2005images
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Old 20-02-2011, 08:39 AM
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Really - the shadow method at solar noon is the easiest. You only have to get it within 5 degrees or so as the adjustment on your mount will cover that much when you are drift aligning.

Use a plumb-bob with a thick-ish string and you won't need a stick in the ground
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That's 11 degrees to the East, or to your left when facing south.
No No No my friend
For East magnetic variation
Thats WEST (to your right) when facing south!
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I am new to this and it dont seem so easy.
I live in Rockingham W.A. and want to find true south. I have been to the Government site shown above and it gives me a reading of -4.634, however, someone else told me that I should point my compass due magnetic south and then the true south would be 12 degrees to the east of that. If the declination says -4.634, is that the difference, or 12 degrees. Is the -4.634 degrees or some other measurement.
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NAME STATE FEATURE CODE STATUS LAT (DD MM) LONG (DD MM) ELEVATION (m)
ROCKINGHAM WA LOCB (Towns & Localities) Official -32 16 115 43 -

Australian Geomagnetic Reference Field Computation

Requested: Latitude -32o 16' 00", Longitude 115o 43' 00", Elevation 0 km, Date 2011/01/1
Calculated: Latitude -32.2667o, Longitude +115.7167o, Elevation 0.00 km, Epoch 2011.0000

Magnetic Field Components

D = -1.833 deg

Therefore your accurate, compensated magnetic compass will be pointing about 1.8 deg west of true north. Equally 1.8 deg east of true south. That should be within the azimuth adjustment range of any GEM if you were to start with the mount aligned on magnetic south.

If your tripod is steel or there is any steel fences/reinforcing/tanks/etc nearby, it will affect your compass.

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Old 20-02-2011, 11:36 AM
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G'Day Colin
Magnetic variation is WEST for your location
So When facing South point Scope EAST
by the variation in degrees

same as Andrew's calculation
Magnetic Field Components D = -1.833 deg
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Old 20-02-2011, 02:10 PM
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No No No my friend
For East magnetic variation
Thats WEST (to your right) when facing south!
Hi,

When you read the post, he could have meant that, could he not?

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Old 20-02-2011, 03:17 PM
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Confused? Variation East Magnetic Least, Variation West Magnetic Best. Basic Nav.

http://www.free-online-private-pilot...on-basics.html

Down the page a bit. Isogonals in this region intersect Longitude E - W, roughly SW direction.
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Old 20-02-2011, 08:25 PM
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Simply, your compass will show that South is 180 degrees (Magnetic). If you live in Melbourne your magnetic declination is 11.18 degrees to the East. That means your True South on your compass will be 168.82 degrees.

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This is a useful site:

http://www.solar-noon.com/
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