Well thought i should get off my but and stop trying to wing it by myself. I had a 12 inch DOB with steel tube with the usual mount, but man was it a pain to take outside all the time. I live 50 km from Adelaide so have nice black sky's but my ignorance and wanting the biggest i could afford at the time came back to bite me lol. I learnt quickly the DOB was not much good for Astro pics unless i had a goto mount blah blah blah, so i sold it and sat around licking my wounds for a few years.Anyway found this site and now i'm a happy camper again, i have spent so much time here my wife must think i'm chatting with another woman.Anyway getting back into again but this time i will start off with hopefully a little more grey matter being used in the old noggin. I recentl purchased a nice used skywatcher 127 mak with red dot and williams diag and 8-24 eyepiece, also purchased an eq5 pro goto mount from this site, so this combo should be a nice starter kit for me. I know a lot of you guy's have serious kit, so one day i hope to get in on that also, but it seems selling a kidney may have to be an option lol. Anyway cheers all and happy watching.