I hate Apple - Page 8

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #**141** 08-01-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagar

Hi Chris, Only following the same head in the mud approach you are taking. I understand you love your apple gear but to be honest anyone would think you are on apples pay roll to further the companies product.

Well, with all respect Doug no, I'm not. I appreciate many of their design principles - and I'm a long time user. I choose to defend Apple gear because most of the criticism comes from people who have no real experience with it - and I think that's unfair. I respect the people who design it so much that I can't but help defend them in these circumstances if I know the problem isn't what it's being made out to be. I do the same for friends of mine who I see going through trouble. A defence mechanism for sure, but that's me. I also defend Windows when it's warranted (check back several years ago) for my posts regarding the mostly unfair and ridiculous criticism levelled at Vista. It had many, many issues, but I used it very successfully, so it can't have been all bad.

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To your way of thinking apple may have the right gear and approach to it's development etc but to someone who grew up with a much more open system with loads more freedom to use and abuse I strongly disagree with your thoughts.

I've been in technical IT since 1979 Doug - where I started at IBM as an engineer. I'll emphatically bet that I've been involved with "PC's" for longer than anyone here, because as an IBM systems engineer in 1982, I opened the very first IBM PC that ever came in to Australia! "To someone who grew up with" You aren't the only one to grow up with them.

Windows is NOT an open operating system by the way. It's protected by Microsoft as much as Apples' OS is. Actually, being based on BSD UNIX, I think that OSX is more "open", if anything.

I specify Windows, OSX, Linux and UNIX at work in my role as IT director. Choice depends on the intended role. Macs for advertising creative workstations - there's nothing better, and most graphic artists will agree. Windows has come a way in supporting this field, but artist's here all choose Macs, and I accommodate them. Linux for the standard web servers running Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP - nothing better for the money and great for developing solutions on. We use Solaris UNIX Sparc and Intel servers as well for our mission-critical work and main websites. I use Windows for everything else, including general office systems. I've used it all. My choice of personal machine is based on 32 professional years in the business. I guess that I'll have to strongly disagree with you disagreeing with me.

Your opinion is, of course yours and fine, but your observations certainly won't change mine any time soon.

Horses for courses, and I've just read a thread in the software section where Sheeny has had to completely blow away his Windows 7 machine because he couldn't get the right help. It happens to users of every platform.

mozzie (Peter) · #**142** 08-01-2012, 09:14 PM

thanks for the app chris for the red light it works a treat.......

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #**143** 08-01-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mozzie

thanks for the app chris for the red light it works a treat.......

Onya Moz

Start up SkySafari and hit the "invert" button in RedScreen. Great for reading maps at night on screen.

barx1963 (Malcolm) · #**144** 08-01-2012, 09:21 PM

I am far from an IT guru but I have used a couple of Apple products. I have had 3 iPods as I use them as the simplest way to play music at the dance classes and dance night we run. Also great for storing a few videos of moves that we can plug into other peoples TVs without worrying about carrying a bunch of DVDs around. I have just bought the 3rd one as the batteries are going in the other 2 after 6 years of very heavy use.
I also have an iPad that is great for travelling. Used it when OS much easier than carrying around a laptop and doubled as a Kindle so didn't have to carry around any books (on a 4 week trip I would expect to read about 5-8 books!)
Cannot comment on Macs as haven't used one but for what they do the apple products I have used are just great.

bobson (Bob) · #**145** 08-01-2012, 10:11 PM

Hi, my name is iBob. I lost 7 kilos since I started using Apple iproducts and I feel ifantastic!!
I would recommend it to everyone

caution"""

Use only as directed and if pain in the a"" persist consult your doctor

Terry B · #**146** 08-01-2012, 11:00 PM

What a load of twaddle this thread has become.
I don't believe in the religion of Apple or any other company. They role isn't to provide a fantastic service to society but to make money. Apple seems to be very good at this and seems to have indoctrinated lots of believers in the process.
You guys are like the god botherers that want to convert everyone.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #**147** 08-01-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry B

You guys are like the god botherers that want to convert everyone.

Really? I don't think so... can't actually see where the product has been pushed, but merely defended. Besides, I'm an atheist - and a strong one.

Kevnool (Kev) · #**148** 08-01-2012, 11:37 PM

Wouldnt it be great to get any apps on my blackberry.
But that cant happen as the gov wont allow it as they control the darn thing.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #**149** 08-01-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevnool

Wouldnt it be great to get any apps on my blackberry.
But that cant happen as the gov wont allow it as they control the darn thing.

i liked my old Blackberry, it was a good business tool. What gov't Kev.... the Canadian?

Kevnool (Kev) · #**150** 08-01-2012, 11:49 PM

aust gov Chris they have total control over it.
Ican go in the settings and all the features are locked and cant be started.
I have to log into it every 15 mins to unlock it and then it tells me to change password every month.
It is good for the internet and my work emails but thats about it.
I cant bring myself to buy a phone as these gov rates for my private calls are incredible.
The phone so say is a piece of IT equipment.
My home page logs straight onto there intranet site.

Octane (Humayun) · #**151** 09-01-2012, 12:05 AM

Kev,

All government departments have to adhere to strict IT security policies.

Much like our work PCs have restricted access to the Internet, and, even then, everything is monitored. Can't install software unless it's approved, and, so on and so forth.

H

Kevnool (Kev) · #**152** 09-01-2012, 12:15 AM

True H last year I had to apply and provide a case study as to why I needed VLC player to be installed on my desktop( media player on there machines dont play video files they wont give the codecs out).
My reason was to play safety videos to all my teams at team meetings and yep it got approval.

They re strict as and they say misuse of it and its the boot more or less.

Cheers Kev.

mithrandir (Andrew) · #**153** 09-01-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevnool

I have to log into it every 15 mins to unlock it and then it tells me to change password every month.

Kev if you reckon that's a pain, work (govt are clients) want iPhones used for business purposes (including privately owned ones) to be encrypted, use complex alphanumeric passwords, and require you to log in every 15 mins. At least a Blackberry has a keyboard.

There has been enough complaint that they are reviewing the 15 min part.

Trixie (Carey) · #**154** 09-01-2012, 09:01 AM

I only recently bought an iPad and I love it. It's turned me into a bit of a fan girl though. I just bought an apple tv and I love that too. My husband hates them, and prefers windows and android so we have many of these debates at home.

He laughs at me every time I have to borrow his laptop to use a site with flash and I laugh at him every time he has to go and find a power source! I have to admit I really like his android phone though.

GrahamL · #**155** 09-01-2012, 09:24 AM

Technology today whatever brand name you use is is truely a great tool for work and play ,but I can't for the life of me see it as anymore than that !

I remember some very sage like advice posted here once about these sort of threads that blow several pages of hot air up the spout .

Now how did it go ? oh yeah thats right

"GET A LIFE GEARHEADS"