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Old 18-03-2011, 04:15 PM
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In any case 800 average nuke reactors (600MW generating capacity) is only 480GW of capacity....the US generates 1030GW annually (or 4100TWH), so your calculations are out by at least a factor of 2.5 or more. For an ideal situation.
Just realised then that I used China's electricity consumption (which is actually greater than the USA's by about 13%)

I don't understand where you are getting the 1030GW number from. 480GWx24x365=4204TWh/yr which is greather than China's, or USA's, annual electricity consumption.
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Old 18-03-2011, 04:25 PM
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At least with lead pants Superman could not see your willy. When we were kids my brothers and I always wondered why Superman did not check out Lois Lane with his xray vision!
We figured out he did all the time but never let on.

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Old 18-03-2011, 04:29 PM
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Carl, I have searched the web and the US Department of Energy websites and I cannot find any reference to the study you mentioned.

Could you kindly provide a link.
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Old 18-03-2011, 05:11 PM
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Just realised then that I used China's electricity consumption (which is actually greater than the USA's by about 13%)

I don't understand where you are getting the 1030GW number from. 480GWx24x365=4204TWh/yr which is greather than China's, or USA's, annual electricity consumption.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/chi...ectricity.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electri...pa/epates.html

Your figures are old
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Old 18-03-2011, 05:12 PM
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At least with lead pants Superman could not see your willy. When we were kids my brothers and I always wondered why Superman did not check out Lois Lane with his xray vision!
We figured out he did all the time but never let on.

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Old 18-03-2011, 05:20 PM
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Here's an interesting graph from the EIA....

To think that most of this (65%) is coal generated and they wonder why we have global warming!!!!.
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Old 18-03-2011, 05:44 PM
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Here's another couple of interesting sites to do with solar power....

http://www.landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

http://www.energymatters.com.au/inde...article_id=741

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Old 18-03-2011, 05:58 PM
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Carl, I have searched the web and the US Department of Energy websites and I cannot find any reference to the study you mentioned.

Could you kindly provide a link.
It wasn't a study....it was a figure quoted in an article that was mentioned in the DoE. When I mean a few years back, it was sometime around 2006-2007. As I said, if it's wrong, then it's their problem. I can't find the article either, but if I do find it, I'll let you know. Looking at the link I posted in the previous post, what they may have confused was in fact the world figure for the US figure, but I do distinctly remember the comparison being made.
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:19 PM
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My figures use the exact same source as yours? What's your point?

(In case you don't understand - on the wiki page I linked click on the reference source and one of the domains you linked to above opens)
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:34 PM
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Here's our local attempt at making a start:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/11/ba...olar-goodness/
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The reason why.....the politics of greed (power, influence and money). In other words....the coal mining companies and the oil companies: Exxon, Caltex, BP, AGIP, Chevron, etc etc (notice who owns most of these companies), along with their government flunkies.

They really couldn't give a damn if this planet went to hell in a hand basket, just so long as they benefited from it they'd be happy.

Solar power free....that I totally agree with and it should be implemented as soon as it can possibly be done.
I'd like to make a few observations...

1) Politics of greed. Everyone is guilty, and I mean everyone... why? See 2)
2) Ownership of the "big" companies. Citizen investors (i.e. you and me)
3) Corporations and government are made up of people, thus you are stating that no one gives a damn
4) Solar Power is not "free", even if it is given away by the government. I pay WAY to much tax, which in turn is wasted by government. I'd rather keep more of my money and make my own decisions as to how to spend it... (thus, I confirm and affirm (1) to be true)...
5) The amount of energy required to make a solar panel does not pay back (from a greenhouse gas point of view) for 3 years.

Final point does not relate strictly to the use of solar, but to the realization that petroleum will ALWAYS have a place in society. Don't believe me? Then I'd suggest you look online for wooden keyboards, wooden tires and wooden shoes... Keyboards, tires and most shoes are made with petroleum by-products, along with an almost infinite amount of other "everyday" items.

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<disclaimer: I work for an Exploration and Production Company, the one mentioned as "etc etc" and have investments in all of the others mentioned, except ENI (parent of Agip)>

FYI (semi-interesting facts... or maybe not...): Caltex is a Brand name of Chevron, not a "Company" per se. Exxon is actually the ExxonMobil Corporation, who's roots date back to "Standard Oil" of the late 1800's.

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Old 19-03-2011, 07:22 AM
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On a lighter note ...... You better throw in a few pairs of Sunglasses if I'm going to live near by. Imagine the glare from a Solar Farm of Mirrors.
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Ah... Flash ...
NO GLARE at all. The mirrors are parabolic with the light focused to 1 point above (that 's where the massive amount of energy is collected)
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