If we can't change the climate back we had better start adapting to the predicted changes, there is plenty of time to start moving away from the coast, to build stonger houses and change agricultural practices.
It could take 200 years for the sea level to rise a meter. The ice caps don't melt over night, Antarctica could take 40,000 years to melt.
Humans have been migrating and adapting for 10's of thousands of years, it justs gets harder with more population. Population growth is the real problem.
Humans have been migrating and adapting for 10's of thousands of years, it justs gets harder with more population. Population growth is the real problem.
Spot on. That's really all it boils down to. Growth is the road to doom.
Humans have been migrating and adapting for 10's of thousands of years, it justs gets harder with more population. Population growth is the real problem.
Well take one instance. I recall back in the 1970's Syria having a population of 6 to 7 million. Today it is around 22 million or more, all stuffed into an area about the size of the fertile corner of South Australia and has reduced itself to armed gangs fighting each other. If the world had the population of a century ago, I doubt we'd be seeing anything like the degree of conflict or a world that is steadily marching to a 3rd World War in a generation or two.
Well take one instance. I recall back in the 1970's Syria having a population of 6 to 7 million. Today it is around 22 million or more, all stuffed into an area about the size of the fertile corner of South Australia and has reduced itself to armed gangs fighting each other. If the world had the population of a century ago, I doubt we'd be seeing anything like the degree of conflict or a world that is steadily marching to a 3rd World War in a generation or two.
Er, - not wishing to point out the obvious, but pretty much spot on a century ago, weren't they marching towards the first world war?
OMG!!!! the LNP just had an 18% swing against it in QLD. They have apparently lost the unambiguous mandate given by the electing public
Of course, Newman reckons the public were annoyed because they had to do a bye-election 8 months out from a general election... Nothingf to do with policies... Nah
Geez, better not get on the wrong side of Queenslanders. TOUCHY!!!
Bring on a Federal by-election
If you believe Bill Shorten would go to an election promising a $25 a ton Carbon Tax, as your comment infers, I suspect you are living in a fantasy world.
The notion that a Government's mandate from the election which got it to power, should be judged on the basis of opinion polls about another government, makes very little sense to me.
Regards,
Renato
It could take 200 years for the sea level to rise a meter. The ice caps don't melt over night, Antarctica could take 40,000 years to melt.
With the current shocking rate of land ice loss in Antarctica, there has been one calculation that 1% of that ice mass will disappear in 2200 years times.
Regards,
Renato
Hi Tony,
I think that guy wants to see heat and heat everywhere. The RSS and UAH satellite record is attached and doesn't show anything like his cause for concern, and the other global surface temperature data sets aren't that different.
I must admit to having fun reading sceptic sites like Jo Nova's where people have been having fun tearing strips off the BOM modified/homogenised Australian temperature record (where Daily Minimum temperatures can be found which are higher than the Daily Maximum temperatures). The latest finding is that the hottest place in Australia ever was next to the ocean in Albany WA, where the raw data of 44.8C was homogenised to become 51.2C on the 8th Feb 1933. The satellite measurements of Australia, don't show Australia being anywhere near as hot last year as the BOM's homogenised data said it was.
Regards,
Renato
If you believe Bill Shorten would go to an election promising a $25 a ton Carbon Tax, as your comment infers, I suspect you are living in a fantasy world.
The notion that a Government's mandate from the election which got it to power, should be judged on the basis of opinion polls about another government, makes very little sense to me.
Regards,
Renato
The only fantasy world around here is the one in which some people try to convince others that there is NO problem.
I suspect Shorten will go for an emissions trading scheme, which will be equally as ineffective as a carbon tax for the simple reason that the idiots in opposition will attack it on principle, a hallmark of our degenerate political system.
If anything is going to happen it will be driven by individual actions and public opinion driving politicians to make decisions based on Science and planning that extends beyond a 3 year election cycle, and that wont happen until people start dying big time.
Er, - not wishing to point out the obvious, but pretty much spot on a century ago, weren't they marching towards the first world war?
Just a thought
They didn't have the benefits of fully developed oil technology. That technology enabled the world to support a higher population more comfortably than hither-too. But of course because of that human numbers increased with the total passing the 2 billion mark in the 1930's. If it stayed at that we wouldn't have so many problems today. But now we've got 7 billion.
The cure for this will a 3rd World War which will be total and use nuclear weapons indiscriminately. That will be the final end product of the sort of rhetoric that has become common practice today.
Look on the bright side: the ensuing nuclear winter will correct for the global warming to date, while the sudden drop in industrial activity will bring GHG emissions under control.
Tried and true population control measure
Almost as good as playing against LFC
Lol - it certainly was back in the 70s and 80s when you daren't even talk about supporting another team in certain areas for fear of getting beaten up good n proper. Glad those days have pretty much gone
Look on the bright side: the ensuing nuclear winter will correct for the global warming to date, while the sudden drop in industrial activity will bring GHG emissions under control.
I'm a great believer in World's Best Practice, which plainly, in accord with that report I linked to, is to have a carbon tax of zero.
My like Clive Palmer's ETS proposal.
Regards,
Renato
I thought you were complaining because the tax was higher than in Europe? But what is the point of such a comparison if you disavow the tax all together?
The government taxes many things. For you is CO2 emission from the carbonsinks is some sort of sacred cow that should not taxed?
Look on the bright side: the ensuing nuclear winter will correct for the global warming to date, while the sudden drop in industrial activity will bring GHG emissions under control.
The nuclear winter is overrated. And in any case in a few years following a nuclear war there will be an industrial recovery.
Industry will go on until the last drop of blood can be sucked out of the Earth.
