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Old 16-06-2012, 12:45 AM
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Landscapes to die for. Damn.

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Old 16-06-2012, 11:08 PM
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Just saw it and loved every minute of it
I love sci fi not for story lines or object scales and accuracy but because it allows you to lose yourself in the whole premise and get your imagination flying
Loved the visuals, love the mean look of Prometheus, can't wait to watch it in IMAX 3d
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Old 17-06-2012, 08:55 AM
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I agree. It could have been epic. But it was crap.

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Prometheus was probably one of the worst movies I have seen, it was a joke.. The only thing that kept me watching was the shred of hope that there may be a good twist in the ending..

That may be a little unfair coming from a trained scientist, but I do generally enjoy sci-fi and fantasy (I am a huge fan of Stargate and Star Wars). Without going into too much detail, I'll name 4 major gripes I had with this movie:
- 'Creme of the crop' scientist are complete idiots
- Severely lacking internal consistency
- Scientific aspects and jargon plain wrong
- Thinly hidden Christian agenda
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:31 AM
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You will its awsome in 3D , I loved it also .
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Just saw it and loved every minute of it
I love sci fi not for story lines or object scales and accuracy but because it allows you to lose yourself in the whole premise and get your imagination flying
Loved the visuals, love the mean look of Prometheus, can't wait to watch it in IMAX 3d
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:37 AM
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A trained scientist ??? whats that ? , trained as a mouth technition ? , Each to his or her own , its a movie Man , not scienticic FACT ,, , go watch any movie today and its full of poetic license, thats the nature of the beast , Ive even seen it on the " Discovery Chanel " Cheezz ... .
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Prometheus was probably one of the worst movies I have seen, it was a joke.. The only thing that kept me watching was the shred of hope that there may be a good twist in the ending..

That may be a little unfair coming from a trained scientist, but I do generally enjoy sci-fi and fantasy (I am a huge fan of Stargate and Star Wars). Without going into too much detail, I'll name 4 major gripes I had with this movie:
- 'Creme of the crop' scientist are complete idiots
- Severely lacking internal consistency
- Scientific aspects and jargon plain wrong
- Thinly hidden Christian agenda
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Old 17-06-2012, 11:44 AM
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I reiterate that I enjoyed the movie a lot, but the disappointment was that Prometheus's screenplay and some storyline elements were below par compared to most of Ridley's other work - Alien, Bladerunner and many of his other non-scifi movies (eg. Matchstick Men, IMHO a brilliant and beautiful movie right to the end). Ridley has made clunkers before, eg. Hannibal, and his own comment has been ' ...hmm, that one didn't turn out so well, time to move on, ...next...." So he admits that he's not perfect. I'm perplexed as why he didn't recognise the faults during Prometheus's production, and what he might now say about the film given hindsight and audience reaction. And despite all this, yes, I do want a sequel! Fox.
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Old 18-06-2012, 05:43 AM
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A trained scientist ??? whats that ? , trained as a mouth technition ? , Each to his or her own , its a movie Man , not scienticic FACT ,, , go watch any movie today and its full of poetic license, thats the nature of the beast , Ive even seen it on the " Discovery Chanel " Cheezz ... .
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As in I have a masters degree in physics.. like I said, it doesn't have to all fact or even consistent within our laws of physics, so long as it is consistent within the framework they build. This isn't a lot to ask for, most movies do manage it eg The Matrix, Inception even Avatar..

Anyway, I'm not trying to take anyone's fun away, like you say 'each to his or her own'. I'm just saying if anyone, like me, demands this low level or rigour to enjoy a flick, they'd best skip this one.
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Old 18-06-2012, 12:30 PM
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Ok , lesson learnt ? You should have saved your $25 .....
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As in I have a masters degree in physics.. like I said, it doesn't have to all fact or even consistent within our laws of physics, so long as it is consistent within the framework they build. This isn't a lot to ask for, most movies do manage it eg The Matrix, Inception even Avatar..

Anyway, I'm not trying to take anyone's fun away, like you say 'each to his or her own'. I'm just saying if anyone, like me, demands this low level or rigour to enjoy a flick, they'd best skip this one.
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Old 18-06-2012, 05:58 PM
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Well.... I saw it over the weekend and enjoyed it from a visual point of view. Yes the script etc is nothing special. I have been a huge fan of the art of HR Giger for over 30 years and this film basically animates many of his famous artworks from decades ago in those sets, for instance the alien space ship and its control room. So maybe this film is for fans of Giger's dark visions only?
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Old 18-06-2012, 10:55 PM
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Saw it tonight, only average I thought...

I thhought it didn't have great action, nor was it a witty & suspenseful story
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Old 19-06-2012, 08:09 AM
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I thought it was a movie with stupid characters doing stupid things.
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Old 24-06-2012, 05:22 PM
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Saw it last night in 3D

Strange. I loved it in the moment from a visual point of view. The CGI, scenery etc.. were just amazing. My wife however walked out and said 2nd worst movie she has ever seen.



Read no further if you have not seen it.


The story however and most of the acting was B grade at best. Complete waste of Charlize Theron talents. Good eye candy that's for sure but acting was wooden. Guy Pearce ? Why bother. Could have been anyone given size of the part.


Some of the characters they cast were just silly and their behavior was just stupid and reckless. Not the kind of thing you would see on a trillion dollar space mission where first contact was likely to be made. Misfit biologists and punk dope smoking geologist. please...


just a few examples of stupid unrealistic and unbelievable behavior:
  • · Science mission or not, you would never visit some strange planet with clearly manmade structures and then just waltz in with no planning, no reconnaissance, and no weapons for defense. hmnnnn lets assume they will be friendly.....
  • · Land on strange planet and within minutes jump into your vehicles onto a strange surface you are unfamiliar with and casually drive in with 6 hours of light left.
  • · Take of your oxygen mask because air is "breathable". Air is breathable with ebola and bird flu flying around too. Doesn't mean you won't get contaminated by an airborne pathogen or something man made sensors are not calibrated to detect.
  • · See strange snake like creature acting aggressively and walk up to it calling it a cute puppy and stick your hand near it on Martian planet. Yeah right. You're a trained professional scientist that doesn't know anything about this species. You may even hurt it by touching it and you act that way.
  • · Get stuck in an alien facility for the night and choose to hang out in the creepiest most dangerous room in the place with massive alien statue and urns full of oozing black stuff with a big pile of bodies outside the room. Yup that's what I would do
  • · Find 3000 or 35000 year old head (can't remember) and stuff it in a duffel bag to bring back to you ship for examination later. Thats what all trained archeologist do when they find precious artefacts at a dig. No painstaking removal of dirt with toothbirshes and dusters for this lot....
  • · Get major abdominal surgery with muscles cut right through and then be up for another mission that includes a lot of running about 10 minutes later. Ask any lady who has had a C section. They can barely lift their heads for 2 days.
  • · Cutting out a clearly alien body out of your stomach, then casually leaving it in a medical pod on your ship without telling anyone in the crew or worrying about endangering their lives.
  • · Miracle medical pod in female captains safety pod quarters is only calibrated for men ?
  • · Walk up to your fellow crew members after just having had an alien taken out of your stomach, blood dripping of your body and the crew barely look up at you and ask what happened and at best make a wise crack..
  • · Massive space ship rolling like a wheel. Intelligent woman looks up and runs straight in the path its rolling not sideways.
  • · 3 crew members that are basically space fillers in last 10 minutes of movie turn into heroes and ram the alien ship, combined with worst acting and cheesiest lines I've just about hear.
  • · How do you get lost in a cave that has been 3d mapped and your positions tracked and relayed back to central station ?
  • · Last survivor of massive mission. Very intense. Discovered that race is trying to wipe out your planet. You find a way off the planet that relies on a robot you don't trust and decide to fly off to another planet not back to earth to warn them. You do all of this without wondering what you might eat along the way. Will the cryo container for the aliens work for humans ? same dna is one thing but size etc.. are very different. How do you know the container wont overfeed you and kill you as its calibrated for an engineer size dude ?
  • · Wake up some dude 3 times your size who has been sleeping for who knows how many years. Surround him with 4 little dudes (humans) who sort of look like him, act aggressively towards one of the little dudes by smashing them in stomach. Don't introduce yourselves at all, then first thing you do is ask it if would not mind granting immortality to some old little dude. (This guy might be the equivalent of a mechanic or ships janitor) Imagine yourself in the engineers position getting woken up like that ? I might want to smash a few people myself at that point as you would be disoriented and scared.
Basically everything was just too rushed to get to the next scene and behavior too unrealistic to make it believable with no build up. Could have done a "lord of the rings" rather and made it 3 hours, or even broken it into 2 or 3 movies and would have done much more justice to the potential of the script. The story has so much potential to be awesome. I'm hoping a long directors cut can improve this a lot.

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Old 24-06-2012, 06:50 PM
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lol, nice one, Chris. This is why I left my brain at home and went for the eye candy. No-one will make movies like The Godfather, again.

Apparently, Charlize Theron was supposed to play the female lead (instead of Noomi Rapace), but, due to timing/other jobs, she was unable to play the lead. Or, so I've been told.

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lol, nice one, Chris. This is why I left my brain at home and went for the eye candy. No-one will make movies like The Godfather, again.

Apparently, Charlize Theron was supposed to play the female lead (instead of Noomi Rapace), but, due to timing/other jobs, she was unable to play the lead. Or, so I've been told.

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Think they should have got Angelina Jolie. And Brad Pitt as the squid. Perfect.

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Why destroy a good action sci-fi story with logic and real science, maybe one day they'll make a movie that conforms to known reality, but I doubt it ???

This was the thing that got me about the first Alien movie, man with unknown obviously unfriendly creature stuck on face and how easily it was for someone to overide quarantine guidelines with no thought for the rest of the crew or what may go wrong.

Unknown never before encoutered species, hey man let it in ???

As with Aliens, perfectly good drop ship the all clear hasn't been called as the marines investigate the plant etc but we will set down our drop ship for a smoko and have a look around leaving it open so good old Alien can sneak aboard.

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Why destroy a good action sci-fi story with bad logic and poor science,
^^^ fixed.

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