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Old 06-12-2010, 04:00 PM
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I like discussions where people are willing to see the proof but sometimes people are so comfortable thinking that we are the only ones that they refuse to see
You must have some evidence that the rest of us haven't seen, Please show us this proof that has been proven, so we all can see it.

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And dispite many examples of the chances being high for life being provided
So tell me one that has proven to have worked. searching for life has know where been, anywhere near proven. I can believe and have faith that they are right. but not base they are out there as proof by the "theories of chances" especially when all to data so far says "NO Proof yet".

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I have tried to remain objective and have failed to find objectivity in return so I am signing off
objective?? you are locked into your view that Life is out there without the proof its in anyway remotely out there, there is a group on earth that have the same faith and belief without the proof as well, so why are you guys right and those guys so wrong. seems like the same argument without the proof because they also provide examples of the chances. I go by the DATA not the many examples of "chances", I also hope and pray that, the day we might get that data that finally proves it, I am still here, but until then objectivity "NO PROOF IS NO LIFE". no matter how much you bang your head against the wall while trying to prove your many examples of the "chances" being high for life being provided, are in anyway A PROVEN FACT.
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:23 PM
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You could also argue that God does not exist because there is no proof that he/it does exist but when you talk about faith then you do believe that God exists, this is not science. Likewise you could believe in the theory of creation not that of evolution likewise without supporting scientific proof.

However the probablity of life existing elsewhere in our universe is based on known science ie: how life formed on earth and mathematics, from these, conclusions are made that the probability of life existing elsewhere is statistically high given the right set of circumstances.

Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or appeal to ignorance, is an informal logical fallacy. It asserts that a proposition is necessarily true because it has not been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option: there is insufficient investigation and the proposition has not yet been proven to be either true or false.

In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

Carl Sagan famously criticized the practice by referring to it as "impatience with ambiguity", pointing out that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". This should not, however, be taken to mean that one can never possess evidence the something does not exist.

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