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Old 14-07-2009, 09:43 AM
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Hi gang,

Just catching back up with this thread, if a year/coffee table book is on the cards I will be more than happy to look at arranging quotation from a number of large print companies in Sydney who I've worked for over the last few years. While I'm not in that game anymore my father still is and has a wide range of contacts.

On the cost side of things, with full colour printing it's more economical to keep the number of pages in multiples of 16 (ie, 32, 64 etc), as this is the largest that most machines can print. These sections will cover the "text" pages, and then it's a simple matter of setting the 4 page cover to run on a smaller size press (usually printing 2 covers on the one sheet)

I hope none of that was too baffeling, trying to keep it in non-print terminology!!

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Old 14-07-2009, 10:07 AM
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Hi gang,

Just catching back up with this thread, if a year/coffee table book is on the cards I will be more than happy to look at arranging quotation from a number of large print companies in Sydney who I've worked for over the last few years. While I'm not in that game anymore my father still is and has a wide range of contacts.

On the cost side of things, with full colour printing it's more economical to keep the number of pages in multiples of 16 (ie, 32, 64 etc), as this is the largest that most machines can print. These sections will cover the "text" pages, and then it's a simple matter of setting the 4 page cover to run on a smaller size press (usually printing 2 covers on the one sheet)

I hope none of that was too baffeling, trying to keep it in non-print terminology!!

Cheers,

Benno.
Thanks Ben - I'd appreciate that. I'm in pre-press, so understand your thoughts on page imposition completely. I'm looking at using a short-run service based on an Indigo digital press, not offset. The reason for this is to totally avoid the cost of setup and a minimal print run, and concentrate of the per-unit cost that only digital printing affords us the luxury of. We don't want to hold stock, and be able to order short numbers (a few copies to maybe dozens) as required.

Could I ask that you PM me to discuss further?

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Old 14-07-2009, 05:49 PM
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Great Idea

Great Idea .. Whatever support is needed by the members ...count me in
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Old 14-07-2009, 06:07 PM
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Title change? "almanac" to "compendium"

Thanks Jeff We're getting closer.

OK - After a little more thought, I think that some peoples' concern over the name "almanac" has merit. To keep this publication affordable, we need to keep the page count down as much as we are able to - so this will preclude us from including lots of stuff that would let it otherwise earn its "almanac" moniker.

I'm thinking "compendium"...
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Old 14-07-2009, 07:50 PM
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i see its been narrowed to - an images by members book,

why not just call it 2009 the images or something like that.

whats the book at now... pages ? etc as it seems to have developed further since i last looked.
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Old 14-07-2009, 07:56 PM
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i see its been narrowed to - an images by members book
Not sure that it was ever any more than that Clive - along with data describing each image.

Judging by the number of semi-firm entries, we could be looking at 60 pages or so.
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Old 14-07-2009, 08:02 PM
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Hi Chris,
Definately the first photo as the cover. The "ICEINSPACE photo should be on it". Just my thoughts on the issue. I'll go with most things and voted for $100. I really think it is worth the money.
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Old 14-07-2009, 08:29 PM
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Just thought it could do with this little addition?

I like the version on the right best.

Otherwise looks great Chris

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Old 14-07-2009, 08:40 PM
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EXCELLENT!!
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Old 14-07-2009, 09:56 PM
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LOL! Thanks guys.

Mike - anyone ever told you your choice of fonts suck?

The secret to good design is placing eyeline objects on thirds and keeping it simple. I agree that the IYA logo should be there. It must be kept clean however, and not become overcrowded. Too much text is distracting and I'm not too sure about the bluish planet/deepspace collage - it's really too busy IMHO. Looks good on the website but the key logo component is the text itself.

Anyway guys, could I humbly ask that we try not to turn this into a design competition here? We need your images though!
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Old 14-07-2009, 10:11 PM
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Are we allowed to use the IYA logo without their permission?
It's looking good though.
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Old 14-07-2009, 10:12 PM
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Was going to add that LOGO, just where you had it actually, but I assumed it would cost money to use or at least permission would be needed, hence just the words instead.

Confucius say, man who doesn't consult only hears his mistakes

But I go now

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Old 14-07-2009, 10:20 PM
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Logo is no problem. Being the professional that I am () I'd already sussed that out:

http://www.astronomy2009.org/resources/branding/

We'd dedicate a page at the front explaining the object of the book, along with a brief on the IYA.

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The official name of this global celebration is the International Year of Astronomy, abbreviated IYA2009.

The official slogan of the IYA2009 is "The Universe, Yours to Discover".

The official logo of the IYA2009, which also incorporates the slogan, appears on this page in several formats. We can provide versions of the logo with the text translated into other languages; e-mail your translations to iya2009@eso.org.

We encourage widespread use of the IYA2009 logo by individuals and groups who organize or support IYA2009 activities. An IYA2009 "activity" is here understood to be an event, exhibit, performance, commercial or promotional product, print or electronic publication, or other creation intended to advance the aims of the IYA2009 as described elsewhere on this website.

In order to use the IYA2009 logo you need to provide contact information and a brief description of your IYA2009 activity/product to your National Node Chair, including the URL of your IYA-related website, if applicable, as well as time and place. If the country in which you are organizing an IYA activity/product does not have an IYA2009 National Node Chair, or if the activity/product is of an international nature, you will provide the required information to the IAU's IYA2009 Secretary instead.

If you use the IYA2009 logo on a website or in any other electronic publication that supports hyperlinks, you should link to www.astronomy2009.org as well as to your National Node's IYA2009 website, if applicable.

As a rule of thumb, the IYA2009 logos must not be modified. Please contact the IYA2009 Secretariat in case of doubt (please submit your graphics).

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Old 15-07-2009, 03:21 PM
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Hi all,

I should have some indicitive quotes by the morning to see where we stand (let's see if keeping it in the family works!!)

I was speaking with Chris yesterday afternoon and mentioned to him how much I love this print stuff and miss the industry so much, so thank you to everyone for allowing me to indulge one of my passions. This is really going to be a world class project and I'm honoured to be a part of it.

Cheers,

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Old 15-07-2009, 03:50 PM
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It's great to have you involved Ben.

Everyone - based on these quotes, I hope to have an all-up per-unit price sorted soon - which will then be subject to approval by the powers to be here.
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Old 15-07-2009, 03:52 PM
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Great Idea, I'd buy one.

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what a great idea !!

although nothing i have taken, is hardly worthy ...


Oh, I dont know about that Duncan, I thought your submission of the "Vomiting gold fish" was particularly good .
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Old 15-07-2009, 04:04 PM
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Here’s an idea.

You could put it in a section that has comparisons of what can be done with different budgets, all of the same subject i.e. pictures taken with gear under $1000/$2000/$3000 and so on.

I agree with mike that you would want to make this a one off that you can rerun when you need to rather than an annual year book.
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Old 15-07-2009, 04:12 PM
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Yeah - not sure about that Rabbo. Those sorts of comparisons should probably be left to the forum to explore. It's over-complicating things. The main thrust of this nice and simple coffee table book is to present individuals within our member base who contribute their favourite image - plain and simple.
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Old 15-07-2009, 04:21 PM
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Yeh it just needs to be a visual feast - not technical or complicated.

Something you can show guests when they come around to visit. Something you can take into work and show your work colleagues why you love this hobby so much.
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Old 15-07-2009, 05:08 PM
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no problem, just spit balling thats all.
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