Who is still using FarceBook??

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by AndrewJ

Gday Marc
Fully understood, but again, you need massive data, and who better than FB to give it to you.
The EU has just brought in laws that may help curb some of that, but as per above, having data collated "for good" is 10%, and blocking misuse is a bit harder, esp when the owner of the company is the one selling it off behind everyones backs.
Interesting why Snowden and Assange are pariahs for making private data freely available, but Suckerberg is still not being attacked, ( other than a slap on the cheek with a wet lettuce )
I guess it comes down to whos privacy was exposed??????


Andrew

Google collects far more data than anybody else. I think FB is the scapegoat atm. The internet is a digital medium. There is far more data collected by browsers (chrome comes to mind) than posting on FB IMO. Everything is online nowadays. Even software subscriptions are moving to a monthly pay per use model. Operating systems update online. Banking is done online. When we become cashless that will be the last step. Every aspect of your life will to some extent require you to go online, so very easy to monitor and control. Unless you live in a cave and cut yourself off from the world and go off grid. But who would live like that? We'll just get used to the way things are.

[silv (Annette)]

not downplaying the Google accumulation of data. But

"posting on FB"

is NOT what the FB data trove consists of. Let me repeat #78.

Non-users have a Facebook profile, too. Non-users are tracked, their device and browser "fingerprinted", de-anonymized and data pooled with other sources by Facebook, too.
Every webpage that shows a social media "Like" or "share" button notifies Facebook of your visit. Regardless of whether you're a user or not.
"Facebook pixel" is another tracker but invisible to a web visitor.

And if you have been a user but "deleted" your profile, only the official part of that profile has gotten deleted. The big rest they had collected on you, the advertising relevant part of your browsing habits, your financial status etc. stays on their servers and is continuously used and added to by Facebook and their business partners.

These are no conspiracy theories; Zucki admitted it in the hearings before Congress and Senate.

And it's against the new EU GDPR.
And it's going to violate the new e-privacy regulation of which 2 drafts are currently in discussion behind closed EU doors - bigly lobbied against by Facebook & Co., newspapers, and everyone who believes that surveillance, profiling and micro-targeting, i.e. manipulating people on the very individual level is the "new oil".

[AndrewJ]

Gday Marc

I think FB is the scapegoat atm.

Thats cos they got caught

Banking is done online.

Not for me, ( at least not yet )
I see a big future for bartering, and its already starting in many areas.

When we become cashless that will be the last step

That is a politicians ( and data miners ) wet dream.

Humans being humans will find a way around that for lots of things tho.
Bitcoin and its derivatives will bring back some anonymity.

But who would live like that?

I take it you dont watch "Doomsday Preppers"


Andrew

[silv (Annette)]

what we have right now is a 10, 15 year old crime culture.

Because of its young age it's not hopeless to curb it now.
There is no reason to say "It's been like this forever and it's not going to change."

It's like the times of pre-historic tribes, ruthlessly killing, raping, enslaving weaker tribes.
We just need a "Code of Hammurabi"-moment - the first known written legislation by mankind in which theft was punished with amputation.

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by AndrewJ

Gday Marc

I take it you dont watch "Doomsday Preppers"

All jokes aside the next CME will take care of all this fuss in the news and send us back to horses and carriages. I was at a seminar at Space Weather last year in Sydney which is a branch of the BoM. What he was saying scared the sh!t out of me talking about recorded events since the 1800s and knowing how many close calls we had recently. Our current technology is extremely vulnerable to it and Our reliance on it will be our doom. The chaos would be pretty ugly and the recovery time counted in years for very basic services, power grid, water, food distribution, protection... So data privacy seems all the way down the list.