Smoker / Non-Smoker

[avandonk]

I used to keep a quick reply to an Ice In Space forum handy and whenever I had the urge to uselessly reply I would look at it until the urge went away.
I know, I just used it!

Bert

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by avandonk

I used to keep a quick reply to an Ice In Space forum handy and whenever I had the urge to uselessly reply I would look at it until the urge went away.
I know, I just used it!

Bert

Hi Bert,

I assume you are referring to my post as a useless reply? I am surprised you would reply to the thread in such a manner. No, I did not suddenly get the urge to reply, and I don't keep quick replies handy. I found my way to this thread from a post regarding smokers at the Qld Astrofest. I am not a smoker and having read how many on this thread are trying hard to give the addiction up I simply recalled an intereview I had heard some years ago and thought it might be something that may be of use to someone.

Peterm

[ving (David)]

Originally Posted by KG8

If you switch off the TV and start to use your your own brain to think with you will come up with some disturbing facts.

1/ Exhaust emissions ...

2/ Tobacco companies don't make the most profit from tobacco, ...

Why isn't it on the news every night? Because Coke is a huge advertiser and has a lot of political clout. Not nearly as much as the pharmaceutical corporations do, Pharma is the second largest business on the planet after Arms dealers.

you must have know ppl would quote you

when i drink coke it doesnt directly effect other poeple in my vacinity. whhen I dont exercise it doenst effect others sitting near me. when was the last time you had a coughing fit because you saw someone sitting on a lounge watching tv or saw someone drinking diet coke?

exhaust emissions, well thats a different story... and a completely different argument.

a smoker doing what he/she does effects other around them in a way that no other addiction can.

smokers rock!

(ps, dont smoke, just dont smoke...)

[hookedonsaturn]

I've been a smoker since i was 12 and am now pushing 60.So far no ill effects and a lot of younger non smokers have a hard time keeping up to me on a hard ndays work.I dont think its the smokeing but rather the lack of exercise to help clean your system out.As far as quitting well I've never been a quitter and i'm not gonna start now

[Lee]

Ever heard of an n=1 trial??? They don't mean much....
Take 1000 people age 60 who've smoked for 48 years (and survived), put them up in a work challenge of sorts with 1000 60 year olds who haven't smoked.... I know where my moolah is.
I hope your "no-ill-effects" persists for you.

[Neil]

When smoking doesnt allow you to observe and appreciate what we all love,...this wonderfull universe from in front of an eyepiece , you,ve become part of what we,re looking at...........think about it.

[Ric]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

I started with the patches this morning.

How have the patches been going Jeanette?


Cheers

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

I ran out, so I'm on the gum now.
I think sleep is the best thing. I could sleep all day, get up eat, and sleep all night.
Just don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
I'm on a hair trigger and about to go irrational.
Stupid addictions.

[Ric]

Hang in there JJJ, they say the first week is the worst. you can always go for walks around your property and yell at the clouds.

I think you are doing very well

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Thanks for the encouragement Ric.
I'm working my way through a packet of chocolate coated honeycomb and I'm feeling fine at the moment.

[erick (Eric)]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

..a packet of chocolate coated honeycomb....

Guaranteed to fix any problem! Keep going, Jeanette!

[alan meehan (Alan)]

well iam a smoker,and i hate it but just going though the theads there are a lot of people just trying to quit or making excuses about other things that might kill you.iam told smoking is more addictive than morphine.good onya jjjnettie i dont want to pinch a nother smoke of you again.sorry to the ones at astrofest i blew my smoke on ,yes you should have yelled at us.i was diagonosed with lupis disease just 3 mths ago and the doc told me to give up smoking how hard it is.it is good to see so many that dont smoke or have given up, i have just got to try harder.

[antares30]

Gave up approx 20 years ago and never looked back, not a reformed smoker and don't push it on anyone to give up however, how can you all afford it now?

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by alan meehan

>snip
i was diagonosed with lupis disease just 3 mths ago and the doc told me to give up smoking how hard it is.it is good to see so many that dont smoke or have given up, i have just got to try harder.

Hello, Al

So sorry to hear of your health issues with Lupus disease. I wish you all the best in your efforts to quit smoking, it is a worthy goal. I’m sure there are heaps of IceInSpacers cheering you on, as well as family and friends.

Go for it Al, and good on you.

Cheers

Dennis

[kitty]

Good Luck jeanette. My partner has tried to give up several times, at one stage he had a Patch on and a ciggarette in his mouth! It must be hard. I am the only one in my family that has never smoked, though my Dad and Sister have given up successfully for 20 years.

[entity62]

Clean for 2 years cigs........Clean for 1 year weed.........
My lungs love me....
Gave up so i could buy astro gear...

[I.C.D (Ian)]

I started smoking at the age of 16 in 1966 gave up in 1985 wean myself off them over 3 months.I started in the mines in1980 and in our crew of 20 18 where smokers by the time I gave only two where still smoking and today we have no smokers at all

[abellhunter]

Well the most powerful thing is your mind. If you make up your mind to stop, you can beat the withdrawls. If your mind is weak, it will find any dumb reasone to go back.

Also deep breathing. i do yoga/pranayama/meditation daily and find it very powerfull. This helps to keep your body and mind fit & centered. Also i took up jogging, and this has just been great to give you a natural high and keep the pounds off. You see, when most stop smoking their system slows down and they gain weight because of it. Not to mention they tend to eat more.

Anyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyway what ever the short term difficulties are the long term benifits are worth it a 1000 fold.

Be Well. Lance

[PCH (Paul)]

I'm with Lance - best thing I ever did was giving up about ten years ago. Well worth the pain and suffering of quitting

I do think that it is in our minds to quit - if we genuinely 'really want to quit'. In other words, if we really want to do it for all sorts of good reasons, then we probably don't need all those endless patches and tablets and things that are pushed these days. The willpower alone is enough.

The purchase of Nicobate etc as an aid to quitting is kind of a prior admission to yourself that you can't do it by the strength of your willpower alone. And clearly, if this is the mindset at the outset, then any small thing is likely to throw you off the quest to stop.

For those considering quitting, I'd suggest collecting a whole batch of great reasons to stop - and there are plenty of them ! - and then just pick a date asap and do it.

In actual fact, I thought afterwards that quitting was blown up out of all proportion. And although certainly some effort was required, it wasn't as hard as I've heard some make out.

Anyway, good luck to all potential quitters

Cheers,


or to want to be seen to be

[DRCORTEX (Lance)]

Hahahaha, thought someone was talking about me - checked the thread, my nick isn't mentioned. Two Lances, amazing, such an uncommon Oz name.

Well, I gave up for 10 years, then **** happened re Divorce, financial hassles, etc.

Dosn't take a lot to get you back there again. It dosn't matter how long you have given up. Those pesky little neurons are just waiting for that hit.

Best bet, don't start. It is addictive as heroin.

Cheers
Lance