Why the hostility against the Science forum?.

[bmitchell82 (Brendan)]

nope sorry to be disagreeable with your comment but I am only but a mear budding engineer. not really young but not really old. you know just kinda (is that polly enough?)

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by bmitchell82

nope sorry to be disagreeable with your comment but I am only but a mear budding engineer. not really young but not really old. you know just kinda (is that polly enough?)

Typical pollies reply

[bmitchell82 (Brendan)]

My work here is nearly done! Everybody you will win the 31 million super lotto draw if you vote for me!

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by bmitchell82

My work here is nearly done! Everybody you will win the 31 million super lotto draw if you vote for me!

In that case, you've got mine

Voting has closed

[bmitchell82 (Brendan)]

Sorry but due to the banana shortage last year i have to change my my policies. I need to tax all that voted for me 31 million to support the wild bilbies in out back northern territory.

[GeoffW1 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by Bassnut

I can't believe the lame complaints about the science forum. I read it all the time. It's the hard nut expert ego maniacs that make it entertaining and interesting. Craig rocks!. Harden up you pansies, life ain't all about groveling to avoid offense !.

Great stuff Fred, you go for it!! All the rest of you lame pansies, eat cement !!

That's the way to run a forum, no prisoners

Oops, where did that TOS go?

[Bassnut (Fred)]

Originally Posted by marki

Interesting comment Fred based on my observation of the one and only post I have seen you make in the science forum. It was late at night, the thread was heated as usual and if my memory serves me correctly you accused said posters of having a chronic masturbation habit but in more colloquial terms . I believe it was moderated .

Mark

As I remember (it was in a drunken haze, and may well have been correctly moderated) I may also have pointed out the Masterbation habits of the posters , which BTW I am in awe of, it takes a lot of ego and practice get that good.

Anyway, it's all very good entertainment , let the best ego tripping forum on IIS stay unspoilt by politically correct nancys . Viva la difference !.

[Bassnut (Fred)]

Originally Posted by GeoffW1

Great stuff Fred, you go for it!! All the rest of you lame pansies, eat cement !!

That's the way to run a forum, no prisoners

Oops, where did that TOS go?

That's right girlfriend. TOS? what's that ?, Sounds like another form of Masterbation

[avandonk]

Actually Bassnut is correct. Only over achievers are allowed in the said forum. I was told many years ago that an over achiever was someone who came first, third and seventh in a wa_nk_ing competition. Long may this vigorous activity go on.

The reality folks is that we all try to discuss some rather perplexing scientific problems 'as we see them with our puny limited knowledge'. If it seems elitist then bad luck. I could never understand the 'sport' talk anywhere I met it. Overpaid fully grown men playing with various sized balls was important!?

My contribution has always to give the bits I think I understand or point to where it could be found. We are all different and have different talents. If you feel offended then you should look at yourself. I personally do not care if I offend anyone inadvertently. It would be different if it was premeditated and personally directed. That is just wrong but OK if you really mean it!
Conversely you can say whatever you like to me. I will never take offense but just evaluate what is said and if I am wrong I will say so and change my mind.

I would hate to see that other members of IIS think that one forum of our fora is where all the bad boys play. It is just not like that. We are too busy beating up on each other to notice.

Bert

[Paul Haese]

Originally Posted by avandonk

I was told many years ago that an over achiever was someone who came first, third and seventh in a wa_nk_ing competition. Long may this vigorous activity go on.

God damn that is funny.

[mill (Martin)]

And now for some light reading from uncyclopedia:

The speed of light in a medium has never been measured because mediums claim this would cause quantum disentanglement and kill their psychic powers, much like Schrodinger's cat. There are, however, secret societies which aim to do just this. They have been foresighted by the Mediums already.
To detect this simply set your microwave to medium and run after the microwaves as they come out.

[marki]

Originally Posted by avandonk

I would hate to see that other members of IIS think that one forum of our fora is where all the bad boys play. It is just not like that. We are too busy beating up on each other to notice.

Bert

The bad boys do seem a little over sensitive to critisism dont you think .


Mark

[Bassnut (Fred)]

Originally Posted by marki

The bad boys do seem a little over sensitive to critisism dont you think .


Mark

Off course they are, thats half the fun.

[avandonk]

Marki this is not reality! This is folks communicating over a system that our ancestors can only dream of.

They then argue about argument! Such precious little souls.

There are rules of engagement. Some people want to finesse them to the point where everything is unworkable. This is standard practice from the ignorant where some confected offense suddenly materializes as a way to stop others saying what offends them. If they do not like it stay out or leave.

Bert

[marki]

Originally Posted by avandonk

Marki this is not reality! This is folks communicating over a system that our ancestors can only dream of.

They then argue about argument! Such precious little souls.

There are rules of engagement. Some people want to finesse them to the point where everything is unworkable. This is standard practice from the ignorant where some confected offense suddenly materializes as a way to stop others saying what offends them. If they do not like it stay out or leave.

Bert

Bert there are rules of engagement, it falls under the TOS otherwise I could just say what I want which suits me fine, I am no wall flower and would love to express myself in my usual manner. My comment was aimed at the OP and his suprise at some of the responses he is getting from others on the forum and peoples perceptions of the science board. Folks do not post there but they do read and form opinions about others. This is the result plain and simple.

Mark

[sjastro]

Well thanks for the feedback guys.

No surprises about the overall outcome. Anti-science is well and truly rampant.
The only surprise is how two faced certain individuals are.

Let me leave you with an observation, for all the failings of the Science forum, it comes nowhere near the level of contempt exhibited in this thread..... and this is the General forum.
So much for throwing stones in glass houses.

My OP has been well and truly vindicated.

On that note, let me conclude I will no longer participate in any forum here.
I don't want to upset people for making them feel unintelligent and uneducated.

Steven

[avandonk]

Originally Posted by marki

Bert there are rules of engagement, it falls under the TOS otherwise I could just say what I want which suits me fine, I am no wall flower and would love to express myself in my usual manner. My comment was aimed at the OP and his suprise at some of the responses he is getting from others on the forum and peoples perceptions of the science board. Folks do not post there but they do read and form opinions about others. This is the result plain and simple.

Mark

And they are quite entitled to form opinions of a few words on a forum somewhere as to a persons worth within their own framework or view of the world.

They are just not valid or real as an analysis of anyone.

With limited understanding it is quite possible to form an erronious opinion with very limited information.

Bert

[marki]

Originally Posted by sjastro

Well thanks for the feedback guys.

No surprises about the overall outcome. Anti-science is well and truly rampant.
The only surprise is how two faced certain individuals are.

Let me leave you with an observation, for all the failings of the Science forum, it comes nowhere near the level of contempt exhibited in this thread..... and this is the General forum.
So much for throwing stones in glass houses.

My OP has been well and truly vindicated.

On that note, let me conclude I will no longer participate in any forum here.
I don't want to upset people for making them feel unintelligent and uneducated.

Steven

Steven I am sorry you feel that way as you have always contributed greatly to the knowledge base of the science forum. But I have always tried to encourage a more open and tolerent approach to discussion on the science board as its purpose should be to educate and liberate people who participate not attack and belittle as often happens. You are not the worst offender in this respect but there is an element of guilt by association and many people have been burnt when posting, just look at the recent locked thread. The reaction you recieved as shown in your original post is just people kicking back because they feel excluded and now want to exclude you.

Mark

[Bassnut (Fred)]

Originally Posted by sjastro

Well thanks for the feedback guys.

No surprises about the overall outcome. Anti-science is well and truly rampant.
The only surprise is how two faced certain individuals are.

Let me leave you with an observation, for all the failings of the Science forum, it comes nowhere near the level of contempt exhibited in this thread..... and this is the General forum.
So much for throwing stones in glass houses.

My OP has been well and truly vindicated.

On that note, let me conclude I will no longer participate in any forum here.
I don't want to upset people for making them feel unintelligent and uneducated.

Steven

You are kidding right, are you that precious?. Your posts are much appreciated by all science forum readers including myself. Get off your hi horse and get on with it, punk .

[marki]

Originally Posted by avandonk

And they are quite entitled to form opinions of a few words on a forum somewhere as to a persons worth within their own framework or view of the world.

They are just not valid or real as an analysis of anyone.

With limited understanding it is quite possible to form an erronious opinion with very limited information.

Bert

I agree totally Bert but it happens. All we have are keyboards and monitors and much of our evolved senses that let us read between the lines are blocked, we are blinded by science so to speak. It is not possible to see an expression or a wry smile to determine the posters intent and thus it is all open to semantics. I would love to see a science board that was open to all discussion so folks could ask questions or state their ideas no matter how silly they may be (try teaching kids). Those with the knowledge should assemble it in such a way as to steer the person in the right direction and everybody wins even if the original poster was trolling, others would learn. If we trully value science then we must work to encourage understanding and free people from ignorance. This can not be done with a sledge hammer , it needs to be done cleverly. Perhaps another board up under the science banner called "Science Class" or similar where people could just ask their questions and have them answered, we have enough expertise around here to do that. Leave the current board for discussion and argument.


Mark