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05-12-2010, 05:23 AM
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Lost in Space ....
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Wow! this thread has taken a few twists and turns since I last checked on it.
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I wonder if that accounts for some of the 'missing' matter that has led to the dark energy construct.
Peter
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They mentioned that in the announcement of the estimation increase. Have to bring out the big calculators again and start all over.
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05-12-2010, 08:16 AM
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Cyberdemon
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05-12-2010, 08:29 AM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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Nice say's it all
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05-12-2010, 08:33 AM
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I want to believe!
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05-12-2010, 08:40 AM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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I want to believe!
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Well said JJJ
Its like your signature says
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Don't wait for your ship to come in, swim out to it.
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05-12-2010, 10:17 AM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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I am afraid you have me confused  |
He was jerking our proverbial chain...  
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05-12-2010, 10:20 AM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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05-12-2010, 11:23 AM
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Fast Scope & Fast Engine
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What a great read Very interesting Thx
Cheers Kev
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05-12-2010, 12:46 PM
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05-12-2010, 02:28 PM
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To think life does not exist outside of this planet is like having your eyes open with the horse paddles on.
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It all depends on how life started here.
If it was just a one of freak event, like some say it my never be repeated anywhere else in the time the universe has been here.
If early life came to this planet then started its evolutionary path. Then yes there properly is life out there, as it will start the same way as life here.
Until its found we will never know whether the "yes" or "no" answer will be answered, but don't forget the data we have today points to NO, all we have is wish full thinking that life is out there and not one scrap of evidence so far. So prove your statement above, prove its right with the data science has, something that says anything else then "migh be" "could be" or "maybe" that most science journals have in them. Its all speculation on the data we have.
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05-12-2010, 02:40 PM
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Grumpy Old Man-Child
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"Myself, when young, did eagerly frequent
doctor and saint, and heard great argument.
About it and about : but evermore Came out the same door
as in I went."
Omar Khayam XXVII
Plus ca change....... 
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05-12-2010, 05:02 PM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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but don't forget the data we have today points to NO
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Please show me the data that points to NO that is all I ask 
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05-12-2010, 05:10 PM
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I think some of the discussions on this posted are off topic, there is another post - http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...210#post663210 that is discussing possible life on other systems based on other findings.
The NASA announcment is over and may need discuss in another thread so newcomers know what the discussion is all about.
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05-12-2010, 06:35 PM
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Chronic aperture fever
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I treat the possibility of extraterrestrial life like I view the existence of a deity. There is not a shred of evidence. Until there is evidence, I will remain cautiously agnostic.
The bottom line, whether you believe or not, is that we simply don't know. We may never know. At this point in time I believe it's far more important to focus on our own existence.
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05-12-2010, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Wader
I treat the possibility of extraterrestrial life like I view the existence of a deity. There is not a shred of evidence. Until there is evidence, I will remain cautiously agnostic.
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+1
Who loves ya baby? Err Wadey!? 
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06-12-2010, 12:48 AM
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On thing I was wondering about the finding is, could life like the ones that use arsenic, get kick started in that type of planetary environment? because to me the bacteria can only use arsenic because of a mutation from one the ones that cant. They evolved that feature they didn't get the jump-start to life solely from that environment. So for me I think we still might need a environment like earth to kick-start it.
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Please show me the data that points to NO that is all I ask
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ALL the data so far collected from ALL the experiments done on planet earth and low orbit, So far they have proven 0% for life anywhere out there. We might have the same odds as finding the goose that lays golden eggs then life out there. Dont forget even this latest "big news" from NASA was only about Earth based bacteria, now if they found it in the solar system then it would be really NASA news. You should try and get a copy of the book that's mentioned some where in this lot of posts called "RARE EARTH Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe" I just started reading it 
I agree 100% with this and maybe NASA need some new ideas. 
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06-12-2010, 06:42 AM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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06-12-2010, 07:01 AM
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Unpredictable
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Hey Warren;
Perhaps everyone who's been involved in this thread, feels a bit like this …
…a potential entry for this month's Photo Challenge, too !
(Pity I didn't take it !)
Cheers & Rgds
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06-12-2010, 01:47 PM
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Chronic aperture fever
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