Sorry to upset you folk.

[stephenmcnelley]

Nice to not lose you from the am. astro community Alex. Even if our communications are involuntarily regulated here.

I value the iis potential, but unfortunately we can not speak freely here on non- astro topics, that is a matter of choice.

If anyone would like to discuss non-astro things while being a part of the am. astro community, here is a link, supplied democraticly and fairly and not for the purpose of undermining anyone

http://southcelestialpole.org.au/for...15.0;topicseen


steve

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by Dennis

Alter my position – change the view. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the other views are no longer true or valid.

Cheers

Dennis

Yes but some views are crap. The view that the earth is flat is not valid, so we have to be able to separate the crap from valid alternatives. This is where we use our our ability to think and don't get mired in a wishy-washy "everyone is entitled to their point of view". I think I'm heading down Alex's path here. Help!
Geoff

[matt]

I think I know where you're coming from, Geoff.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by ghsmith45

Yes but some views are crap. The view that the earth is flat is not valid, so we have to be able to separate the crap from valid alternatives. This is where we use our our ability to think and don't get mired in a wishy-washy "everyone is entitled to their point of view". I think I'm heading down Alex's path here. Help!
Geoff

Which is why I wrote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

A view, hmm. Where feasible and meaningful, I might choose to embrace it as one more view,

Feasible and meaningful imply thinking rather than blind acceptance, and might implies the use of judgment as opposed to wishy washy acceptance.

Cheers

Dennis

[h0ughy (David)]

Look we will settle things here:

1. Make Ving a Moderator
2. Make Ballaratdragons a moderator
3. Make Dennis a DemiGod, us grasshoppers need to look up too
4. Make me an observatory
5. Fill the dams with water, settle the dust and calm the atmosphere and move the moon.

now I don't ask much.........about time this thread died a natural death, much like most of my comet and deepskyshots.

lets get back to meaningless activities like counting how many jupiter and saturn threads mike has started............................ ...................

oh and by the way, would any of the above occur??????????????

[seeker372011 (Narayan)]

I support 1 above

oh and most of 5..not sure if i want the moon to move any more than it is already

and welcome back alex its always nice to have people who really think outside the square as the management consultants say

and lets all get back to normal I'm worn out from just catching up on this thread

[spacezebra (Petra)]

Interesting isnt it Dennis.

Welcome back Alex.

Cheers Petra




By the way, isn’t it weird that all these skirmishes involve only us blokes? Is it genetic?

Cheers

Dennis[/quote]

[astroron (Ron)]

The main reason that its only the male of the species is involved with this topic ,is the females are to busy with the cleaning and washing up and looking after the children.

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Ron!
Behave yerself.

[netwolf]

Alex, for what its worth your posts always intrigue me and make me think, I try not to involve myself with gray areas but i admire people who push the envelope. The increase in chaos increases the potential for order. To much order has the reverse effect, read that in some fantasy fiction novel when i was a kid. In simpler terms we need to shake the tree now and then to see what falls out. It might be an adam's/Newtons apple that changes the world of science. The disorder can bring about an increase in the community spirit to bring an individual back into the fold. Thats worth it. Everyone here is important and needed. The strength of a wheel comes from its many directional spokes. It would not survive on one.

Regards
Fahim

[gaa_ian (Ian)]

Welcome Back Alex, I admire your ability for self Analysis !
While your post are sometimes "Off Beat" you have one great quality that our world needs more of, that is the ability to ask the question "Why".
Why ? am I being served up this in information, why do "They" want me to feel, think, act a certain way. It is a basic scientific principle to ask this important question & it is the beginning of the road to understanding.
Good onya mate & again, Welcome back !

[xelasnave]

Thank you all for your understanding support recognition of an individual’s right to be different.
I would like to reply to each post here personally as each post caused many many thought to run through my head.
For those who are muttering why did the mongrel come back I still say I am sorry to have upset you and leave you with this thought ( a quote from I think Sir Francis Bacon please correct me if that is wrong) but it goes like this.
On taking revenge a man is but equal with his enemy but on passing it over he is far superior for it is a Princes part to pardon..
and

one I use to be at peace with myself and others..

Forgive us our trespasses and those who trespass against us.... has more to it than walking on someone’s land

So let’s start the new day with hope and enthusiasm put all behind us and not forget the start of this thread was an apology to real people who have been hurt it was not supposed to be about me... I was trying to leave by the back door.
Lets move on and thank whoever we each have the need to thank and be at peace with ourselves and the world.
Alex

[iceman (Mike)]

I think everyone has had their say, got things off their chest, whatever the case may be.

Originally Posted by xelasnave

So let’s start the new day with hope and enthusiasm put all behind us and not forget the start of this thread was an apology to real people who have been hurt it was not supposed to be about me... I was trying to leave by the back door.
Lets move on and thank whoever we each have the need to thank and be at peace with ourselves and the world.
Alex

A good note to end this thread on.