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Old 12-02-2013, 09:37 PM
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Re: Orbit change for 2012 DA14

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It will be interesting to see what the end result is, a great example of gravity in action. It is probably too much to hope for but it would be nice to see an animation sometime in the future of what the change in the asteroids orbit was.

The last animation of that type that actually sticks in my mind is the one of the voyager paths through the solar system.
Here are some plots I made a couple of weeks ago when mentioning the pass at the ASV January meeting.
The Orbital Elements Change plots show how the Keplerian elements change from 1200 UT on 2013/02/15 to 0000 UT on 2013/02/16. I didn't include the orbital inclination in the plots as it didn't fit into either the group around 1.0 or the group in the 100s. Inclination changes from about 10 degrees to about 14 degrees from memory. But these changes in elements explain why most planetarium software has problems. You really need an integrator like Solex or similar.

By the way, the following link explains how to plot the position using Cartes du Ciel (Skycharts) by importing a file of positions calculated by JPL HORIZONS or the MPC Ephemeris Services as a catalogue of "objects".
http://www.ap-i.net/skychart/en/docu...isplay_of_neos

My other plot shows the effect on the trajectory by plotting the motion in two planes (X-Y is the instantaneous plane of Earth's orbit in this case, with X being a Sun vector and Y perpendicular). The JPL NEO site shows much nicer plots and I've seen a few YouTube videos that show the fly-by from the asteroid's perspective.

Now I need a weather expert to tell me where I should be heading for Friday night/Saturday morning.

Peter Thomas
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Old 13-02-2013, 01:01 AM
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Notice in the table for Perth and Brisbane (post 66) that At means
'A' Astronomical twilight/dawn
't' Transit (target body at or past local maximum RTS elevation)
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I've just tried simulating 2012 DA14 in SSPro and it really works.

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Old 15-02-2013, 09:38 AM
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I hope someone in WA images this event on Saturday morning.
It looks like it will be cloudy in the eastern states.
See post 66 for the RA & dec of DA14 for Perth.
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Old 15-02-2013, 11:42 AM
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Woo hoo
The day has dawned bright and clear and not a cloud in sight. Expected max of 35 degrees today.
The 12" dob and 5" Tak will be set up tonight after dinner and then the long wait will begin.
Both my boys (7 & 8) have asked me to wake them up to see it; my wife said no way (for both them and her!!). I reckon i'll sneak into their room at about 0200hrs and see if they are keen (shhh boys, don't tell mummy).
I've only seen one asteroid before and that was Vesta about 14 years or so ago. This once-in-a-lifetime event should be a lot more exciting.

Good luck everybody.
Dan
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Old 15-02-2013, 05:53 PM
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What time for Canberra?
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Old 15-02-2013, 09:14 PM
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ill be trying to image it,..... it just comes down to light pollution in my area, which is really bad.
My partner is sick and cant travel out bush (which i normally do)

link to my setup is here already set up lol

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...d.php?t=103382
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