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Old 29-02-2012, 08:52 PM
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Hi Mike

Still something there I can't quite put my finger on but I think that is better.

Cheers

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Did you blink between them? when I do this the latest version is more detailed buuuut I have dissrespected the light somewhat

Probably just seeing limited ...my seeing really is quite bad, which I have become used to in this neck of the woods actually. In Canberra you are spoiled - from my experience what I thought was crappy seeing in Canberra is about average here in Newcastle, the steady skies I remember getting quite regularly from Mt Campbell with the Starfire are almost non existent here ...so I recon we will be back some day

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Old 01-03-2012, 12:08 AM
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This is really very nice Migel!!
I hear your frustration with fluctuating seeing throughout the night... sharp stars.... sh** stars..... sharp stars... sh** stars

But really, this image has a nice feel to it... lots of depth and great colour.

Man, was a hell of a conga line to get on board to comment on this image...

Yous is one popular party dude.... Dude

All the best
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:18 AM
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Superb detail. The thing that strikes me is that the nebula seems to have fractured and split. Some of the matter has subsided forming gorges. It gives the appearance of once being a single 'continent'.
I noticed that too Rowland.

The Kehole Nebula has changed and become more transparent over the last 12 months, and that flare out the left side seems to have grown.
It could be from the high quality of the image too
But it sure does look different than a year ago.

Congrats Mike on another stunning image
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:01 AM
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This is really very nice Migel!!
I hear your frustration with fluctuating seeing throughout the night... sharp stars.... sh** stars..... sharp stars... sh** stars

But really, this image has a nice feel to it... lots of depth and great colour.

Man, was a hell of a conga line to get on board to comment on this image...

Yous is one popular party dude.... Dude

All the best
Rich
Ah you're the consumate gentleman Ricki

Thanks dude, glad you enjoyed it, hard to get that reaction from an Eta shot so I'm happy that so many still enjoyed it regardless of it's done-to-death-ness .

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Old 01-03-2012, 09:03 AM
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I noticed that too Rowland.

The Kehole Nebula has changed and become more transparent over the last 12 months, and that flare out the left side seems to have grown.
It could be from the high quality of the image too
But it sure does look different than a year ago.

Congrats Mike on another stunning image
Hey cheers Ken... but I'm not sure if you are taking the piss or not

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Did you blink between them? when I do this the latest version is more detailed buuuut I have dissrespected the light somewhat

Probably just seeing limited ...my seeing really is quite bad, which I have become used to in this neck of the woods actually. In Canberra you are spoiled - from my experience what I thought was crappy seeing in Canberra is about average here in Newcastle, the steady skies I remember getting quite regularly from Mt Campbell with the Starfire are almost non existent here ...so I recon we will be back some day

Mike
Yes - any very slight deficiencies are probably seeing related.

You might find Canberra changed from before. All we seem to get now are clouds and rain.

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Old 01-03-2012, 03:18 PM
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Yes - any very slight deficiencies are probably seeing related.

You might find Canberra changed from before. All we seem to get now are clouds and rain.

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If I could get this sort of seeing again for the AG12 that would be bluddy good

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Hey cheers Ken... but I'm not sure if you are taking the piss or not

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Mike, I am being serious
with a serious observation.

The Keyhole seems to have thinned or become more transparent over the last year, or it could just be that the Keyhole has looked that way for a long time but the high quality of your image now allows us to see the Keyhole how it truly is.

No piss-taking

Same with the flare out the left side of the Keyhole. It seems bolder, brighter.
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If I could get this sort of seeing again for the AG12 that would be bluddy good

Mike
I've seen that AP152 data set before...but looking at the first time round version the stellar footprints were about 4x larger.

I'm curious....what made them smaller? Layered Erosion filter?
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Unless you get the seeing right Mike do not bother to post an image. I have found that perfection results in zero output. Not one of us would have been born if our parents used the same criteria! Apart from the immaculate conceptions!

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:59 PM
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SO TRUE
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:49 PM
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Just zoomed in a bit more

Super close up of the Keyhole

Not quite as good as the Starfire shot but not bad considering the seeing differential between the two occasions

Mike

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:56 PM
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Mike, I am being serious
with a serious observation.

The Keyhole seems to have thinned or become more transparent over the last year, or it could just be that the Keyhole has looked that way for a long time but the high quality of your image now allows us to see the Keyhole how it truly is.

No piss-taking

Same with the flare out the left side of the Keyhole. It seems bolder, brighter.
No wuckers Ken, I was just joshing anyway, I knew what you meant really

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Unless you get the seeing right Mike do not bother to post an image. I have found that perfection results in zero output. Not one of us would have been born if our parents used the same criteria! Apart from the immaculate conceptions!

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Aint that true, bit like holding back on your singing becasue you think it isn't perfect, unless it is Really bad...then sing I say! Sing!

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The previous posts have said it all Mike......that is one beautiful photograph.

A pleasure to view.

Thank you.

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Old 01-03-2012, 08:57 PM
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The previous posts have said it all Mike......that is one beautiful photograph.

A pleasure to view.

Thank you.

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Thanks Ross glad you liked it

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Old 03-03-2012, 12:30 PM
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I wasn't quite happy with the colour variation coming through in the previous final combine. The RGB showed that there should be some lovely subtle colour variations in the nebula but it just wasn't coming through in the full HaOIIIRGB combine, plus I felt the contrast in the many dark clouds was juuust lacking ever so slightly too...

Soooo I have reprocessed to bring out some of this colour variation and contrast in the full frame and cropped versions:

Full Frame (at 50%)

100% Crop

Hope it looks a little more lively and dynamic

Mike

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Old 03-03-2012, 12:47 PM
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It was fine the way it was. It's lost something, now, and looks flat. :S

Unless, it's the screen I'm using it to view on, now.

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Old 03-03-2012, 02:58 PM
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It was fine the way it was. It's lost something, now, and looks flat. :S

Unless, it's the screen I'm using it to view on, now.

H
Hmmm, ok, Fair enough H, I like feedback.

On reflection...there isn't much in it really ...perhaps I am just going

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I like the new version. As you say not a lot different but I do personally prefer slightly brighter images over one that is darker. There are a few more colour tones as well as you point out.

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+1 I like the new one. Better color variation in the bright bits.
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