Osama Bin Laden dead

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Originally Posted by Exfso

Good riddance to this piece of work I reckon. The jokes have started already, here is one I had sent to me today.

Ah Heaven is full of hateful Christians...perfectly logical to me, we are on the right path

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

‎"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
— Martin Luther King Jr.

GO JJJ good quote

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

I had personal friends and business acquaintances die in Tower 2 that day. Please don't tell me to love my enemy and the world will be a better place for it.

Good riddance to filth.

Next?

[Brian W (Brian)]

Originally Posted by taminga16

Is'nt this the very philosiphy of al Qaeda and the Taliban?

Greg.

Pretty much.

The '------' insert the group you dislike, are infidels and need to be killed so the world will be better and there will be no more killing.

Brian

[Brian W (Brian)]

Originally Posted by Omaroo

I had personal friends and business acquaintances die in Tower 2 that day. Please don't tell me to love my enemy and the world will be a better place for it.

Good riddance to filth.

Next?

Fair enough Chris.

Brian

[asimov (John)]

'We love death. The US loves life. That is the difference between us two.' — Osama bin Laden, November 2001

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by Brian W

Pretty much.

The '------' insert the group you dislike, are infidels and need to be killed so the world will be better and there will be no more killing.

Brian

This won't work it is just another curve in the vicious circle of violence. If you want to stop violence by killing you have to kill every single one who will be effected by their deaths or you just make more enemies. I am not defending Osama bin Laden I think that he is evil but as I said above if we kill everyone who will be upset by his death we become as bad also.

[Barrykgerdes]

He will now be in heaven with all those virgins he has been talking about. That's what he told his followers to encourage them to die for him.

Baz

[leon]

Your on the money JJJ, no one has the right to take another life, but some assume the power to do so.

Leon

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by Omaroo

I had personal friends and business acquaintances die in Tower 2 that day. Please don't tell me to love my enemy and the world will be a better place for it.

Good riddance to filth.

Next?

I'm not trying to invalidate your feelings Chris.
Never.
A lot of people will be able to find closure now.

[iceman (Mike)]

This thread is starting to get a bit personal and clearly some emotions and feelings are starting to get a bit stretched.

It's obviously a very personal issue for some.

I've left the thread open because it's a current news topic that IIS members will want to talk about, but if it keeps going on its current path it will no doubt be locked very soon.

Please think before you post, don't just re-post or repeat the same things that you've already said, and please take a deep breath and make sure you're not getting personal before pressing submit.

[Satchmo]

I don't find any satisfaction at this news of another handful of violent deaths -its just as abhorrent to me as those of the 3000 that dies on 9/11 and the 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians that died in the aftermath of the US led Iraq invasion. Its all a sad chapter in human history.

[tornado33]

A related issue. Its coming out that Pakistan may possibly kave know Bin laden was where he was, in which case why did they not tell the US? Did they knowingly harbour one of the greatest terrorists of modern times.

We all know the US has not come out of the last few decades clean. happenings at Guintamano bay, the Extrordinary renditions where what the US stood for went ignored, but one thing remains absolute. Without the US, Hitler would have become master of Europe and Russia, and Australia would have easily fallen to Japan, placing the entire human race under un elected dicatorship.

They say the US even launched extra spy satellites specifically to hunt for Bin laden. They even built a life size replica of the Bin laden compound in the US for the crack teams to practise and practise on. Terrorists should now know how determined the US is, to stop at nothing to hunt down those who would kill Americans especially on American soil

On subject of Astronomy, did you know that at one stage Afghanistan the war torn place we see on TV for all the wrong reasons, once had the most modern observatory on earth

The observatory was unsurpassed anywhere in the world, equipped as it was with the most modern instruments of the 15th century.

What angers me about Bin laden and the so called clerics who ruled as the Taliban before the US overthew it was what the Omir said was inscribed in the great observatory

"It is the duty of every Muslim man and woman to acquire knowledge."

The Taliban closed schools and forbade women from education.
It is so sad that there are war torn countries that harbour terror, that were in the past right at the forefront of human knowledge

[Brian W (Brian)]

Without the US, Hitler would have become master of Europe and Russia, and Australia would have easily fallen to Japan, placing the entire human race under un elected dicatorship.

Granted that America was the engine that produced the material that was so desperately needed.

You might want however to consider the role Britain and the Commonwealth played as well as the Russians.

On subject of Astronomy, did you know that at one stage Afghanistan the war torn place we see on TV for all the wrong reasons, once had the most modern observatory on earth

Indeed they did.

What angers me about Bin laden and the so called clerics who ruled as the Taliban before the US overthew it was what the Omir said was inscribed in the great observatory The Taliban closed schools and forbade women from education.
It is so sad that there are war torn countries that harbour terror, that were in the past right at the forefront of human knowledge

Absolutely correct, but that arrow flies as well to the west as to the east.
Brian

[bojan]

Originally Posted by tornado33

Without the US, Hitler would have become master of Europe and Russia,

That is not quite correct...
Everyone contributed to the victory over Germany during WWII, so you can't tell US was a key factor (...they joined the battle against Hitler at the end actually... they were busy with Japan in the meantime) It was USSR who actually bled Naci forces at Stalingrad and elsewhere and helped setting the stage for this victory, and in the process it was hit with the highest number of killed in that war... there were tens of millions of people killed on its territory before Germans were pushed out.

[asimov (John)]

T'was a team effort, yes.

[Brian W (Brian)]

Originally Posted by asimov

T'was a team effort, yes.

For how much of a team effort and who made up the team when, you might want to read both Churchill's five volume account of WW2 and John Erickson's 'The Road to Berlin'.

Bojan is however correct in his assertions... no country suffered more casualties from the Germans, nor inflicted more casualties on them, than Russia.

Brian

[koputai (Jason)]

I hear the word 'closure' all over the place, but I think what they actually mean is 'revenge'.

Closure would mean that after this, there is no more on the subject.

Cheers,
Jason.

[AstralTraveller (David)]

I noticed how the news about the beatification of JP2 arrived just after the royal wedding and the skeptic in me wondered whether the timing was deliberate, so as to take the wind out of the Protestant sails. An old fight I know but ....

Anyway, I'm wondering who is taking about the royal wedding now. Talk about upstaging!

Seriously though, the US knew where he was for ages. They built replicas of the buildings to practice on. I wonder how the time of the operation was decided. Was 'forces ready, weather fine' enough?

[dugnsuz (Doug)]

Alive and well, living just outside Glasgow.
Footage of him down the chippy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQvtijBoAfo