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07-11-2005, 10:48 AM
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ooop's ok I'm humoured  , I think I have Mars still bouncing around in my head
from Last night lol. I was looking for a post that had the reason they removed
it as apposed to your post that had the info I was after
regards,CS
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07-11-2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xrekcor
ok, humour me, as there are 6 pages of posts which one are you refering too?  I must of missed it somewhere
regards,CS
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this one right at the beginning
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07-11-2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xrekcor
I knew there was something else about it I didn't like, you could alway send
it down to Mark Suchting to refigure.
regards,CS
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Yep I even emailed him for a price on doing just that. In the end I decided it was all too much to buy such a homemade scope site unseen.
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07-11-2005, 02:47 PM
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I Just noticed that all references to the 16" truss and the GS refractors have been removed.
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07-11-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Starkler
I Just noticed that all references to the 16" truss and the GS refractors have been removed.
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Quite true  ! Well they are playing Ducks and Drakes  !! both bintel and andrews
Remember it is all vapourware until it hits the shores!!
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07-11-2005, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starkler
I Just noticed that all references to the 16" truss and the GS refractors have been removed.
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I think you might find that Lee was inundated with email that badly he had to
remove it from his site, now I guess everyone will email him and ask what's
happening lol... silly bugger maybe should of left it. I think he spent most of
the weekend answering email about it. I got my reply Sunday afternoon.
regards,CS ...not yet : (
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07-11-2005, 05:46 PM
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Flood him with emails? Way to drive up the price, guys!  It's looking more and more like my dream Dob will have to be an ATM project.
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07-11-2005, 05:54 PM
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Could be something to do with the posts I made in the American yahoo and CN groups. 
They were speculating as to the manufacturer of the Meade dobs.
I could imagine Meade jumping on GS and then GS complaining to Andrews....
Or Bintel complaining to Andrews...
Or.....
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07-11-2005, 06:01 PM
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Does anyone make Truss kits in australia? Those who have ATM'd one maybe willing to share there plans. I have seen some cool designs beign shared on CN. One in particular I noted folded down into a box. I think the key with most big dobs boils down to portabiliy as with surburban light pollution they would not be an ideal backyard scope.
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07-11-2005, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starkler
Could be something to do with the posts I made in the American yahoo and CN groups. 
They were speculating as to the manufacturer of the Meade dobs.
I could imagine Meade jumping on GS and then GS complaining to Andrews....
Or Bintel complaining to Andrews...
Or.....
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Thats a shame really. it just makes you specualte more and want to know more goss, specs and want the thing on your doorstep tomorrow, rather than next march
Hey did we poor aussies actually have some news the northerners didn't know. now thats news!
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07-11-2005, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by netwolf
I think the key with most big dobs boils down to portabiliy as with surburban light pollution they would not be an ideal backyard scope.
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Actually it would not be anymore different than your usual scope. If you are
saying that because of aperture the effects light polution will be worst,
therefore a smaller aperture scope will perform better is incorrect. This has
been discussed on a few groups amoung people that I respect for what they
say, some have been in the hobby for several decades. That old wives tale, I
believe started out on the side of a well known brand of department store
scopes packaging, some years back. The same brand that still to this day
show fancy pictures of the views of what you will see threw their piece
of junk, no to mention the others statement they tend to make ie: a 60mm
refractor pulling 500x . It's a proven fact that although larger aperture
magnify sky glow it will still out perform a smaller aperture.
regards,CS
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07-11-2005, 11:48 PM
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Peter Reid from Shepparton Victoria makes Truss dobs, Peter Robbins 30" a 25" and 22"for a couple of other Queenslanders,also John Connelly from the Gold Coast also makes them,I have some plans made but they are being used by someone else at the moment.
As I mentioned in an earlyer post My upper tube assembly fits inside my rocker box and the trusses fold together.
My mirror is a Meade mirror and have no complaints about it, and it was given the thumbs by more opticely experianced people than me
astroron
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08-11-2005, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xrekcor
It's a proven fact that although larger aperture
magnify sky glow it will still out perform a smaller aperture.
regards,CS
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I think the real advantage is that the large aperture allows you to use narrow band filters that block the sky glow.
With a small instrument you are stuck with the sky glow, but less likely to look for faint fuzzies.
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08-11-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu
I think the real advantage is that the large aperture allows you to use narrow band filters that block the sky glow.
With a small instrument you are stuck with the sky glow, but less likely to look for faint fuzzies.
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You wouldn't use narrow band filters just to get rid of sky glow, narrow band
filters are used to tease out certain emission lines from an object, correct me
if I'm wrong  Sky glow you would use say a CLS filter from astronomiks
which is designed to limit sky glow and can be used on all aperture sizes
regards,CS
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08-11-2005, 01:55 PM
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My DGM narrow band is great for gaseous nebulae from my light polluted back yard, but not much else. Definitely no help with clusters or galaxies. I lose about 3 magnitudes to light pollution compared with darker skies 150 km away.
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08-11-2005, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by janoskiss
My DGM narrow band is great for gaseous nebulae from my light polluted back yard, but not much else. Definitely no help with clusters or galaxies. I lose about 3 magnitudes to light pollution compared with darker skies 150 km away.
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There is a good reason for that, Neb filters are for nebula, they tend to tone
down unwanted star light, Dust disc of galaxies are mainly made of star
light so your filter will be useless on galaxies. A light polution filter like the
one I mentioned above will be better for you. they let in everything except
artifusal <-- Mmmmm... ummm err.... man made light ie street lighting...etc...etc...
regards,CS
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08-11-2005, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by astroron
Peter Reid from Shepparton Victoria makes Truss dobs, Peter Robbins 30"....
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Every time I hear someone mention Peter Robbins 30"er I get all lagooned out
and start doing a Spanish dance(r) for 1365 reasons only to fly through
the "Spare Tyre" . I should hide behind a Veil but I had to come out to see
a Trifid Bloom
regards,CS
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08-11-2005, 06:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xrekcor
Every time I hear someone mention Peter Robbins 30"er I get all lagooned out
and start doing a Spanish dance(r) for 1365 reasons only to fly through
the "Spare Tyre" . I should hide behind a Veil but I had to come out to see
a Trifid Bloom
regards,CS
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you forgot to say that was at 3am in the morning at -3deg C with a 2" meade 26mm ultrawide eyepiece
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08-11-2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
you forgot to say that was at 3am in the morning at -3deg C with a 2" meade 26mm ultrawide eyepiece 
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Some thing you wanna ferget  and somethings you want to remember  sorry I fergot about the 2" meade 26mm ultrawide eyepiece
regards,CS
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09-11-2005, 07:30 AM
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Some thing you wanna ferget  and somethings you want to remember  sorry I fergot about the 2" meade 26mm ultrawide eyepiece
regards,CS
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All is forgiven, realy doesn't matter which eyepiece was in there Peter gave us a great tour, even when he put in that 5mm eyepiece, that really accentuated the turbulance in the atmosphere on that glob he put his scope onto, I know it wasn't tuc47, but in that thing it was almost as good.
Basically we were drunk on stardust!
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