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09-06-2009, 05:28 PM
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Mike I agree, the task is not an easy one. While its easy for me to write my thoughts down here, its far more of a chalenge to make it work in the real world.
But i think given the volume of the market in Australia, there is not much else that can be done to reduce costs. Nessecity of our ecconomic climate demands we get more return for our investment, as we have less to spend.
Thought in another way, I am sure the ecconomic climate is also affecting the retailers and if they dont make enough sales what happens then?
Like i said easier said then done.
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10-06-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bmitchell82
Im sure that with a community such as ours we do have a bit of "clout" so to speak and if it means that the vendor will save on Overheads, Labor, Storage.... they would be silly not to embark.
ide rather sell 50 things at 5% profit than 5 things at 50% profit... for one ide get a name in the astro market for GREAT prices, for 2 ide have a whole lot more turn over, giving me more bargaining power hence either better profits next time or better savings...
thats my 2c worth
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... you'd rather sell 50 things at 5% than 5 at 50% !!! Well you wouldn't be in business very long Brendan. Why would you want to do 10X the work for the same money. Take a tip from me, - don't vounteer that when you next go to a job interview
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07-10-2009, 06:32 PM
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89c now. Retailers stuck with old imported stock would be kicking themselves now if they havent hedged.
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07-10-2009, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Starkler
89c now. Retailers stuck with old imported stock would be kicking themselves now if they havent hedged.
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No they wont, they'll just keep their prices sky high until all the old stock is moved , and only then will they place their next bulk orders.
Sorry folks , I reckon with the stupid monolopistic importing policies of most the big brands (to protect the local retailors from those nasty foreign retailors in places like the USA), us consumers will continue to be screwed.
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10-10-2009, 10:58 AM
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You don't have to buy from the locals. I only occasionally do.
Its a global market now and the internet is the new mart.
Greg.
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10-10-2009, 12:09 PM
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and if you keep thinking that way, the "internet" will be the ONLY way you can purchase anything
geoff
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10-10-2009, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GTB_an_Owl
and if you keep thinking that way, the "internet" will be the ONLY way you can purchase anything 
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Retailers with shop fronts need to be value adding and not take their customers for fools, unless they want to specialise in serving the shrinking market of the ignorant and lazy.
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10-10-2009, 12:53 PM
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bewise betold neverbecold
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yes Geoff
and it's the retailers that "service" their customers that you should be supporting
geoff
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10-10-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GTB_an_Owl
and it's the retailers that "service" their customers that you should be supporting
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Reminds of an experience I once had with a very well known Australian telescope dealer. I rang them up with credit card in hand ready to order a telescope and got told, "I'm too busy, order it from our website."

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10-10-2009, 05:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starkler
Reminds of an experience I once had with a very well known Australian telescope dealer. I rang them up with credit card in hand ready to order a telescope and got told, "I'm too busy, order it from our website."
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Haha, I had a similar experience, though not with a telescope retailer.
I had been browsing a local hobby shop website, picked what I wanted and then gave them a phone call to check that they indeed had what I wanted in stock.. he said yes.
I asked what time they closed and he said:
-"Oh, those are web-only prices"
"ah, do you ship from the store?"
-"yes"
"how long does it take to ship?"
-"about a week"
"but I'm only about a 10min drive away!"
-"sorry, they are web only prices, please use the website"
I followed his advice and used the website... someone elses, much cheaper!
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10-10-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GTB_an_Owl
yes Geoff
and it's the retailers that "service" their customers that you should be supporting
geoff
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If we keep talking like this we will never get a fair deal from the local retailers. Let competition do its work. They'll improve their act once they see we're prepared to use the competition.
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10-10-2009, 06:17 PM
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Well I have just bought from O/S for two reasons. One it was cheaper than an almost equivalent product and 2) the product had added utility that the home grown product didn't . The items were from ADM and the AUD is high at the moment but the unique design of the dual Vixen/losmandy plate from ADM won me over. Ill usually buy from a supplier if the price and service are right. One item I'm ecstatic with is my Moonlight focuser. Great service and great price - the product was not able to be matched in either area by local suppier at the time. However I have bought from local suppliers for other products and found Bintel, Myastroshop and Andrews to be really great for various reasons. But prices in AUS are still not really reflecting the rise in AUD. The prices quickly go up when AUD falls althought their stock must have been purchased at a lower relative price - but not the converse. Hence my original complaint.
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10-10-2009, 09:44 PM
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the difference in time of a product going up and going down does make you wonder.
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11-10-2009, 01:54 AM
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Waiting for next electron
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When the dollars up, buy OS, when it's down save your pennies til next time it gains reasonable value. Our market is too small to be economical and simply makes things too expensive for most. Why would you support something thats costing you money when you can have the same for less? It just doesn't make good sense.
Mark
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11-10-2009, 02:51 AM
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I have a starlight usb wheel on order from the UK. These wheels are hard to get and I don't care what the exchange rate is when it becomes available, so long as I get one
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11-10-2009, 07:31 AM
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It hasn't even been a month yet...
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12-11-2009, 11:29 AM
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The AUD must be up against Uncle Sam's greenbacks! I just got 0.905 on a PayPal transaction!
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12-11-2009, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick pinner
the difference in time of a product going up and going down does make you wonder.
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The prices go up instantly , but take a long time to respond to improvements in the exchange rate .... Blind Freddy can see what's happening.
I've always believed the best retailors to deal with are those who are mailorder who order only to fill customer orders , and who do not bother with shop fronts .... you will pay through the nose everytime with a shop front operation.
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