"That's obvious, and the nub of the problem regarding the rest of your comments."
Now, now, no need to be rude.
"No error. Turn right at the intersection, going clockwise around the roundabout. (I even said traffic goes clockwise ... not that I had to ... or that any sane person would think otherwise)."
This is what you previously wrote;
"left lane to turn left, right lane to turn right and either lane to go straight ahead..."
All vehicles enter and exit a roundabout on the left, there are no right turns. Repeat after me, NO RIGHT TURNS.
The rest of your explanation cannot be correct.
"What the? I was expanding on an opinion."
Ok, my bad, I should have said your opinion is incorrect.
"What the? I'm (obviously!) referring to changing lanes without exiting"
This is what you wrote;
"Edit: I forgot the most important rule for making roundabouts work: never change lanes in a roundabout."
Nothing (obviously!) there regarding exiting a roundabout.
"For example, someone enters in left lane, changes to right (inner) lane in order to turn right (at intersection) i.e. to take 3rd exit. I've seen the reverse as well. It's a dangerous practice and one that I recall my driving instructor being abundently clear about all those years ago. I added it merely to be more complete, entirely for my own satisfaction. And why the hell am I wasting my time explaining this to you?"
Well, you're not explaining anything, really. You've inserted entirely pointless drivel that has nothing to do with what you or I said said previously. And in consideration of your feelings, I'll treat that as a rhetorical question.
Anyway, my final point;
If a vehicle entering the roundabout from the left lane was compelled to leave the roundabout at the first exit
"I didn't say that."
No, I did. Try and keep up. I used this as an example of why your original post was incorrect.
"..........and the point I was making was that those type of roundabouts were easier to understand under the old explanations/rules"
But obviously not by you.
"Welcome to IceInSpace, you're going to fit right in!"
I doubt it. I can't even imagine being as rude, insulting and defensive as you.
"Note for everyone else: Yeah, I know, I obviously need a coffee break."
No, you need a Bex, a cup of tea and a good lie down.
They just SHOVE their way around - survival of the fittest. It was a white knuckle experience EVERY time I went there, but I did learn how to city drive well! I still do it in Brisbane
Horns are for wimps in Moscow - road rule is determined by how far and aggressively you change lanes etc.
Try Shanghai, Lewis! They don't even stop for pedestrian crossings
I instructed both of our kids for much of their driver training, an insisted they learn in a manual car. We looked at skid recovery, emergency braking basic car-mechanics, etc.
I then handed them over to a professional instructor who gave them a heads up on what the RTA test would be like. I was quite chuffed that they both passed first time.
That said, our current system is a joke. Potter around at 40-50km hr. Do a hill-start and reverse park, and you have a license.
Learners are not permitted to go over 80km/hr on freeways... I wonder what clown though this sheer lack of flow control was a "safe" idea.
Agree with you 100% Peter,
This is exactly how my kids learned to drive, first countless hours with me teaching defensive driving skills, merging, emergency stopping in wet and dry conditions, skid control etc, then off to the driving school for lessons in what the Testing officer would look for etc.
My 2 kids have been driving now for over 8 years and have never been pulled over by the police for anything other than a RBT stop.
My son learned to drive in my 340bhp M3 so knows a little about power and handling but thankfully has the right mindset when behind the wheel.
I think S.A. drivers are better than other states.
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Steve
Not sure that I can agree with you there Steve ............. I made the mistake of stopping for an amber light on Hindley Street? many years ago only to be overtaken by at least 6 vehicles with their horns blaring then a seventh one passed me in the inside lane but by then the cross traffic had started to move and there was Holden parts flying everywhere .....
Having a large car with poor rear vision (a troopie) I find it easier and safer to reverse into car parking spaces. Since this is uncommon I normally come to a complete stop in front of the desired free spot, indicate, and then move forward so I can back in. Almost everyone understands and leaves me room. However around xmas and at other very busy times I don't even try. I've just had too many cases where someone has tried (and generally succeeded in) zipping in while I'm trying to back up.
This happened once to me in the states. I just kept backing up and hit the car. Yes, I saw her, but thought... "lesson time". She got out very angry, to which I calmly replied "I was backing into the spot when you obviously just zipped right in... did you think I was actually going to stop?"
I gave her my detaills and told her to contact my insurance. Didn't cost much to fix it (just a broken tail light) and I felt better... (yes, I said I felt better).
