Chair ,, so my words are " DRIVEL " ? woaw .. thakks for you momentisious words of wisdom I have really kicked the hornets nest her aint I ? I must have drivelled on it ?
Top word , that DRIVEL ..
Put me in my place .
I was being so diplomatic with all PM's last night , I stuck up with Mod's like you Al , as I believe IIS is a great place , but the hornets seem to be biting .... .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
i was going to keep my trap shut, but after reading this drivel by the same people over the same issues doing the same things that they know they shouldn't, eventually it all circles around and disappears up somewhere dark!
can't you just accept the verdict? the icetrade rules are there for a reason? no its not a perfect world and its certainly not a democratic site, it has rules which all of you accepted when you joined.
speaking as an ex moderator can say that the number of things that a moderator has to get through on here is a lot. having to individually reply to regular users who know the rules and continue to flaunt them - well you do the math.... not enough time in the day.
lazy way out - no - because they were busy cleaning up ice trades some spammer probably hit the site then they will have to deal with that as well?
it was certainly a huge frustration to me, burned me out really. so ask yourself this, do you really have to add a comment in ice trades?
2nd PM on its way , and Mike I did send you a PM last night , my sent messages conferms this ? ,
Woaw ! , Brian's kicked the hornets nest ..
I realise you jobs as Mod's is not easy , my job as a Boilermakers w/s leading hand is similer , we are the " Meat in the Sandwich " and you 'cant please all the people all the time ' and ' some of the people some of the time ' I realise this , but a problem has occured and I beileve its better for you guys to be aware of it in the open forums for all to see ? . sorry mate .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by iceman
OMG I can't believe this is still going.
Still Brian has not contacted me but continues to post rubbish in this thread. It's really easy - Brian could easily look through his post history, which is exactly what I just did.
No bloody posts of his were deleted. Simple as that.
Absolute rubbish. Send me a specific example of this happening or I'm going to start getting really mad at your ridiculous claims.
Either 3 things are happening:
1. You have absolutely no idea what you posted in and what you didn't
2. You have no idea how to find the threads you posted in
3. You're trolling and purposely posting this thread, and continuing to post in this thread (without even contacting me) with the intent of causing problems.
If it's #1 or #2, a little education might help and you can apologise to myself and the moderators for the accusations and admit your own fault.
If it's #3 you'll find yourself on a permanent holiday from IceInSpace.
Seriously Leon?
The rule wasn't made up just because I felt like it. It was because people ASK for chatter to be deleted in THEIR for sale threads.
It's because some people think it's a good idea to post things like negative comments that could hurt the sale.
Even when the comments don't hurt the sale, some people think it's the seller getting their 'friends' to comment to try and make the sale look better than it really is. So it then still hurts the sale.
You can't post chatter to ads on ebay.
You can't post chatter to ads on trading post, or in the paper.
You can't post chatter to ads on IceTrade.
There's been times we've almost setup the system to completely disallow ANY comments on the IceTrade threads, simply to avoid having to have the TOS 'ask' people not to post chatter. That way it would FORCE people to ask questions via PM and we wouldn't have this issue.
People like to post their 'PM sent' etc so we haven't implemented this yet.
But when some people (Leon and Brian included) continue to post chatter in IceTrade, despite having your posts continually deleted in IceTrade, it certainly makes me think a forced system implementation would be better.
There's 22 different sub-forums you can post replies on. Don't post in IceTrade unless you're selling something or asking a question with the possible intention of buying the item. It's a really simple rule.
Malcom for MOD's , you got my vote mate , its what we need here , more lawyers .. sorry mate , but good points .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by barx1963
Because it is specifically not allowed in the TOS!
See (taken from clause 10 of the TOS)
Please don't post replies to someone else's ad unless it's specifically related to the item - that is, if you're asking relevant questions about it, perhaps with a view to purchasing. Keep off-topic and spam posts out of the IceTrade Classifieds. It's not going to help someone sell their gear if the threads contain off-topic posts.
and if I was trying to sell something I don't want comments cluttering up my ad. There is a whole raft of equipment fora here on IIS to give comments on gear, likes and dislikes, why clutter up someone elses ad to do that? I will confess I made a comment on an ad at one time, simply trying to be helpful to a prospective purchaser about some non astro gear that I have personal expertise about and the OP (rightly) was mighty upset about it.
Lets all just take a deep breath, maybe have a read of the TOS and try to be a little more, I dunno, relaxed. Really, its just a forum!!
Oh and there is a specific invitation in the TOS that if any member has a problem with the actions of a mod they can take it up with Mike. Of course it is his site so he can do whatever he likes on it!
I hear you Bro , we are heading down the barrel of the WET !!! 6 months or Melbourne ( Clouds and rain ) weather ,, look out , my computer is going to do overtime , .
Huntsmen , House spiders and others ,, 150mm across , wait till one of these babies run out after the wet !!! , dont drop the scope !!!!! .mate . .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by pgc hunter
All you New South Welshman and NT'ers are forgetting the big picture. You are all lucky you don't live in Melbourne, because then, a few deleted posts here and there will become a very insignificant little distant memory as you attempt to delete fossilized cobwebs from your optics
how come you Mike can get these ( Mine ) replies and I ( us peasents ) cant find them on our lowely PC's ? are these are not avaliable to me ? No problem from me ... .
Sorry for the delay in answering as ,,, Its a buisy thread , ( you are now 1 1/2 hour ahead of us here in the NT , bed time I think ?? and I am enjoying the read . All replies are great , some have been shot down , only to rise again , great stuff .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by iceman
OMG I can't believe this is still going.
Still Brian has not contacted me but continues to post rubbish in this thread. It's really easy - Brian could easily look through his post history, which is exactly what I just did.
No bloody posts of his were deleted. Simple as that.
Absolute rubbish. Send me a specific example of this happening or I'm going to start getting really mad at your ridiculous claims.
Either 3 things are happening:
1. You have absolutely no idea what you posted in and what you didn't
2. You have no idea how to find the threads you posted in
3. You're trolling and purposely posting this thread, and continuing to post in this thread (without even contacting me) with the intent of causing problems.
If it's #1 or #2, a little education might help and you can apologise to myself and the moderators for the accusations and admit your own fault.
If it's #3 you'll find yourself on a permanent holiday from IceInSpace.
Seriously Leon?
The rule wasn't made up just because I felt like it. It was because people ASK for chatter to be deleted in THEIR for sale threads.
It's because some people think it's a good idea to post things like negative comments that could hurt the sale.
Even when the comments don't hurt the sale, some people think it's the seller getting their 'friends' to comment to try and make the sale look better than it really is. So it then still hurts the sale.
You can't post chatter to ads on ebay.
You can't post chatter to ads on trading post, or in the paper.
You can't post chatter to ads on IceTrade.
There's been times we've almost setup the system to completely disallow ANY comments on the IceTrade threads, simply to avoid having to have the TOS 'ask' people not to post chatter. That way it would FORCE people to ask questions via PM and we wouldn't have this issue.
People like to post their 'PM sent' etc so we haven't implemented this yet.
But when some people (Leon and Brian included) continue to post chatter in IceTrade, despite having your posts continually deleted in IceTrade, it certainly makes me think a forced system implementation would be better.
There's 22 different sub-forums you can post replies on. Don't post in IceTrade unless you're selling something or asking a question with the possible intention of buying the item. It's a really simple rule.
Just got back to Jindabyne, last 20 klms in heavy sleet and snow, 5cm of fresh wet snow in the yard and it is frikkin freezin here ..... thankfully the heat from this thread will warm me up. 3 pages and counting.
Thanks AL , thats easy for some of us peasents , but me ,,, self thaught over the years , and one thing I cant do is 'forward a link' , true I have tried ., I cant get it to work I have tried most HELP things but it might as well be in , well ,it's in Dutch ... COOL .
But " Drivel " wont compute ,, It a "get's ones back's up " word .
Come on down .
Brian.
Sorry for my
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Originally Posted by sheeny
By way of explanation, behind the scenes us moderators can see a lot of stuff the normal members of IIS can't. We can see every post and thread that is deleted. We have our own forum where we track posts that are reported and what we do or don't do about them and why.
So its simple, Brian. All you have to do is send us a link to the thread where your post is supposed to be deleted from, and we will be able to see who deleted it (if it was) and whether or not a PM was sent, or whether the post was never there.
Keep in mind:
Just because you went through the motions typing a post, doesn't mean it made it to IIS. The same could happen with a PM, but if it made it to your sent box, I expect it would appear in the receivers Inbox being in the same system.
I hear ya , ' Bottle of wine , feeling so fine ....),,, , the problem still remains , some answers to some threads are dissapareing .
And its becoming more prevelevent .
Slicker cyber thugs ? .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by dannat
Post deleted by myself, was making a joke but changed mind
after this horse has gone .... the boilermaker astronomers will build a stronger steel gate and latch , keep the horse' son out of the Observatory...
Brian.
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Originally Posted by nightstalker
when the quotes roll out the padlocks about! , please kill this dead horse
36 degrees , 67% humidity average here at the moment ,, the build up is comming ( 90+%) , the snow is all yours ...But I bet you have clear skies ? cool .
Brian.
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Originally Posted by Kunama
Just got back to Jindabyne, last 20 klms in heavy sleet and snow, 5cm of fresh wet snow in the yard and it is frikkin freezin here ..... thankfully the heat from this thread will warm me up. 3 pages and counting.
I vote for Jarrod , for "LINK Transfer" IIS .
Cool job , thanks , I looked for a spy satalite when I went out for a look at M22 and surounds in my 60mm TAK , cool . after seeing these photos , 1 vote from Brian.
Brian. ,
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Originally Posted by JB80
I can find your posts.
Click your name and then click find all posts. Hope that helps.
Sorry Brian, but I also had no problems finding your "deleted" posts.
Why not be a man & accept you were wrong?
Bottom line - this is a forum with rules.
By posting here you agree to the obey the rules set by the owners/moderators.
Simple as that.
Time to close this thread mods me thinks...
Chair ,, so my words are " DRIVEL " ? woaw .. thakks for you momentisious words of wisdom 
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2nd PM on its way , and Mike I did send you a PM last night , my sent messages conferms this ? , 
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, dont drop the scope !!!!! .mate . 
I have tried most HELP things but it might as well be in , well ,it's in Dutch ... COOL .
after this horse has gone .... the boilermaker astronomers will build a stronger steel gate and latch , keep the horse' son 
