Nikon D800 released - Page 3

Adelastro1 (Wayne England) · #41 22-03-2012, 04:16 PM

I just received this email from My Nikon Life (Aus) stating the D4 and D800 are released. When I looked at the website though it doesn't look good for actually getting hold of one for a while unless you put in a very early pre-order! My local shop said that Australia was only allocated about 20 D4's in the initial batch (not that I'm buying one!) so that's not many (they'd just been to a Nikon event for retailers in Adelaide apparently). I'm glad I oredered the D800E even more now as there will be less demand (hopefully!) so the chances of getting one when that's released in a couple of weeks is good.

From my email:

Check out your local store for the Nikon D800 & D4

The incredible new Nikon D4 and D800 are here and you can buy them from your favourite Nikon Authorised Retailers now. Just click one of the links below and you'll be taken to a complete list of stores for you to choose from.

http://mynikonlife.com.au/gear/digit...thly+EDM#tab-2

gregbradley · #42 22-03-2012, 11:11 PM

I did a phone around today. My dealer got 2 which he gave to people who preordered before the D800 was even announced. Another told me they got 2 today and are getting another 2 tomorrow and then more next week.

I was told the shipping from Nikon is usually twice a month.

He said realistically it would be the end of April. I'll push harder than that as the other guy I dealt with promised better than that.

Still, its not the end of the world.

Apparently there are plenty of 5D mark iiis in stock though. One dealer said he was receiving 40 x 5D mark iiis today. DigitalRev shows them as being in stock.

Canon is handling the production demands better.

Also the D800 is proving to be enormously popular for Nikon, perhaps better than they expected.

Greg.

Steffen · #43 23-03-2012, 03:12 AM

ECS apparently count on end of March, have you called them?

Cheers
Steffen.

gregbradley · #44 23-03-2012, 07:46 AM

Hi Steffen,

I am on their preorder list and that is who told me realisitically end of April - Bruce.

Cheers,

Greg.

Steffen · #45 23-03-2012, 04:28 PM

I see. Bugger.

Cheers
Steffen.

gregbradley · #46 24-03-2012, 09:18 AM

In case you were sitting on the fence wondering what to get, it doesn't get any better than this:

The Nikon D800 is the best camera sensor ever tested by DXO, 2nd best is D4:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Pub...or-performance

This is THE camera to get.

Greg.

DavidTrap (David) · #47 24-03-2012, 01:37 PM

Post on another forum with real world examples from the D800 by a consumer.

Link

Amazing!!

DT

gregbradley · #48 24-03-2012, 02:29 PM

Love it. This is the sort of wow factor I saw in the original promotional images.

I love the post the guy says he can't tell the difference between it and a D90. LOL.

Perhaps vegemite and wheatbix tastes the same to him also!

Greg.

DavidTrap (David) · #49 24-03-2012, 02:34 PM

Of course there is a massive amount of downsampling of images posted on the web, but the Einstein in the above thread couldn't even acknowledge the detail of 100% crops...

I read an interesting comment on Cloudy Nights a while ago. It added up all the data involved in producing an LRGB image including dark and flat frames. It often exceeds a gigabyte of data, which we then reduce to 200kb to post on a forum!

DT

Adelastro1 (Wayne England) · #50 24-03-2012, 03:34 PM

Wow! *licks chops* That's what I wanted to see - some 100% or more crops on that 36Mb sensor from the real world. The images look amazingly sharp and detailed on those heavy crops. I can't wait to get stuck into wildlife photography with it! And thank god I'm upgrading my lenses too as I don't think the cheaper ones I have at the moment would do t much justice!

And very interesting reading on the sensor review too Greg. Can't wait to see how it stacks up against the 5Diii. It's amazing they are comparing it to the D4 is some areas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidTrap

Post on another forum with real world examples from the D800 by a consumer.

Link

Amazing!!

DT

Octane (Humayun) · #51 24-03-2012, 03:49 PM

Two completely different cameras. Apples to oranges.

Comparing a 1D X to a D4 is a fair proposition.

DXO also says that a Sony NEX system is better than a $50,000 Phase One system.

Awesome resolution in the linked photos. The most telling being the kid on the bike.

H

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Originally Posted by Adelastro1

Can't wait to see how it stacks up against the 5Diii.

Adelastro1 (Wayne England) · #52 24-03-2012, 06:09 PM

I know, but it's what everyone is going on about so there will always be comparisons, plus that article is just about a sensor comparison. The 5Diii sensor comparison will be interesting to see, especially in regard to high ISO which is what most of us on here are interested in! The cameras used for astrophotography can be completely different but the sensors all need reasonable ISO performance (for what I want to do at least!). Regardless, both cameras will be excellent for astro I know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octane

Two completely different cameras. Apples to oranges.

Comparing a 1D X to a D4 is a fair proposition.

DXO also says that a Sony NEX system is better than a $50,000 Phase One system.

Awesome resolution in the linked photos. The most telling being the kid on the bike.

H

gregbradley · #53 24-03-2012, 11:34 PM

Hi Wayne,

There are numerous threads on DPreviews where high ISO comparison ad nauseum are done between D800 and 5D mark iii. The bottomline is RAW image high ISO performance is much the same between the 2. JPEGs though Canon has a stronger noise reduction system and seems cleaner although the D800 does very well too. It depends on the poster but it is often mentioned the greater resolution also makes the noise finer and easier to remove and the extra dynamic range means the noise is more separate from the main image so easier to remove. Also you can downsample the D800 image to 5D sizes and that also cleans it up.

Bottom line is both cameras have superb high ISO performance but the 5D mark iii probably the edge on jpeg low light. 5D mark ii and 5D mark iii are not too different in RAW high ISO as Phil predicted but in jpeg and video it is.

So with that in mind both should perform well in astro images.

D4 and 1DX would be ahead again. I saw a fantastic video showing off D4 low light images and it was truly impressive. Sharp clean images that look almost like daylight in almost darkness.

Greg.

gregbradley · #54 25-03-2012, 10:09 AM

I thought this was a very informative post on another forum

It shows the D800 and 5D mark iii are much the same in night time type images despite the expectation that the 5D mark iii would be better.

If anything the D800 shows a slight advantage in that vertical banding shows up in the 5D mark iii when pushed hard and the D800 shows more detail when pushed hard.

You wouldn't call it in this example much of an edge though. But it is surprising that the Nikon does so well with 63% more pixels.

It would appear Sony is several years ahead of Canon in sensor technology. High megapixel/low noise high ISO performance seems unobtainable from Canon with their current technology.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=41012886

Greg

Octane (Humayun) · #55 25-03-2012, 06:35 PM

And, once again, the Canon files are done no justice by using a RAW converter that has no business touching the CR2 format.

I also suspect the D800 would perform better using native software.

H

gregbradley · #56 26-03-2012, 08:51 AM

H - I saw a post of 2 different 5D mark iii images from different RAW converters and it did make quite a difference. In the example I saw it was mostly a difference in sharpness rather than noise or banding but certainly a good converter is a must.

Here is a DigitalRev review of the D800 which is informative:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6il...alIrPkkN0gA%3D

The main problem with the D800 seems to be simply getting one. They are in super high demand and Nikon is struggling to meet the demand.

Hopefully it settles within a month or two.

Greg.

gregbradley · #57 26-03-2012, 08:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6il...alIrPkkN0gA%3D

A good hands on review of the D800.

Greg.

gregbradley · #58 27-03-2012, 10:01 PM

Long exposure darks - 5 minutes Nikon D800.

These darks seem cleaner than my Proline at -35C.

Is that possible or are they not pushed enough to show?

Either way the low light sensitivity and low noise are shaping up to make this a great astro camera. I plan on using one for time lapse and some Milky Way panorama/mosaics.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=41036863

Greg.

DavidTrap (David) · #59 04-04-2012, 08:47 PM

Picked up mine this evening.

The details is staggering! Can't wait to get out on the weekend

DT

Mighty_oz (Marcus) · #60 04-04-2012, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidTrap

Picked up mine this evening.

The details is staggering! Can't wait to get out on the weekend

DT

Go David go, get as much astro images ( and i guess terrestrial ) as u can