Why correct spelling is important...

[gary]

Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes

Disturbing isn't it how big brother watches over us.

Barry

Hi Barry,

It would not surprise me if the clever people at Google are working on
predictive algorithms that will attempt to guess the contents of our posts
even before we type them ... or mistype them.

[TrevorW]

I respite sum websites have grammer and lspel sheckerc build into them thus enabling pists like mine to be checkled beforehand but I doth thinkest we have more imputant thinks to worries about, no

[astroron (Ron)]

Originally Posted by gary

Just a tip for searching here on IceInspace.

Apart from IceInSpace's own "Search" feature, consider using Google.
For example, Barry's post previous to this one was made only 12 minutes earlier to when I type now.

Yet if I go to Google and type : iceinspace derivation
I already get Barry's Post as first hit.
In fact, if I make a typo and type: iceinspace derevation
Google reports "Showing results for iceinspace derivation" and it still shows Barry's post.

As one more example, try typing iceinspace negler.

Google appears to be currently crawling IceInSpace so regularly that new posts typically can be
found in a search on it within minutes of them appearing on IceInSpace. Plus it cuts some slack
with regards spelling and offers close matching alternatives.

Hi Gary
I just saw your post terrestrial Photography,in reply to Dennis's pictures, you used the word Triptych, I had never heard or seen that word before so where did I go to find out what it meant Google what would we do without it
Cheers

[BakerStreet (Allan)]

It really pings me to see people misuse the English language by restricting it with spelling and gramma. This was inflicted on us a little over 100 years ago by printers and editors. Before the mass media the language was still living and flexible.

The undisputed king of the English language is William Shakespeare. Despite the thousands of new words he introduced to the language and the new ways of using them and constructing sentences. Most of which are now considered bad grammar. There are 96 references to his name written by contemporaries and 12 signatures by his own hand and none are spelled the same and none are spelled the way we spell his name today.

I quick look through any old books or documents will show the flexibility that the English language used to have. The modern view that everything has to conform to the rules that we have been given has reduced the English language to a dead language like Latin and has lost the fluidity and fun that it once had.

By the way, the original definition of Dictionary was the history of words and their use.

[gary]

Originally Posted by astroron

Hi Gary
I just saw your post terrestrial Photography,in reply to Dennis's pictures, you used the word Triptych, I had never heard or seen that word before so where did I go to find out what it meant Google what would we do without it
Cheers

Hi Ron,

It is incredible, isn't it! Plus you have a new word for the day. I use it that way myself.

To demonstrate one more time how often Google must be crawling IceInSpace,
consider that post I made less than two hours ago remarking on Dennis's
wonderful pictures.

Go to Google and enter -
vibrant narrative triptych

Amazing, isn't it!

[tlgerdes (Trevor)]

My problem is that my fingers don't type as fast as I'm thinking, then suffer from buffer overrun.

[sasup (Stacey)]

Originally Posted by BakerStreet

It really pings me to see people misuse the English language by restricting it with spelling and gramma. This was inflicted on us a little over 100 years ago by printers and editors. Before the mass media the language was still living and flexible.

The undisputed king of the English language is William Shakespeare. Despite the thousands of new words he introduced to the language and the new ways of using them and constructing sentences. Most of which are now considered bad grammar. There are 96 references to his name written by contemporaries and 12 signatures by his own hand and none are spelled the same and none are spelled the way we spell his name today.

I quick look through any old books or documents will show the flexibility that the English language used to have. The modern view that everything has to conform to the rules that we have been given has reduced the English language to a dead language like Latin and has lost the fluidity and fun that it once had.

By the way, the original definition of Dictionary was the history of words and their use.

here- here.
I vixed my words so does thou tear out my lips so I may not speak. No he does open the window and spring forth bringing mery thoughts. or something like that. hehehe

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by tlgerdes

My problem is that my fingers don't type as fast as I'm thinking, then suffer from buffer overrun.

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Originally Posted by GeoffW1

Hi,

Yes, if you Google yourself by your username , you will get all sorts of interesting hits, some not really you !

Cheers

Just tried that.

1st one is our Ballarat Dragons Rugby League Club (the one my username comes from),

2nd one is my You Tube Channel,

3rd one is and old post in IIS from 2005

4th and 5th are both my Astrophotography galleries I'd forgotten all about, in the DSI group

5, 6, &7th are my Photobucket account

8th is our Rugby League Club again

etc etc

[mithrandir (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

I respite sum websites have grammer and lspel sheckerc build into them thus enabling pists like mine to be checkled beforehand but I doth thinkest we have more imputant thinks to worries about, no

"If a thing's worth doing, it's worth overdoing" - attributed to R E Heinlein.

According to aspell:

I respite sum websites have grammar and spell checkers build into them thus enabling posts like mine to be checked beforehand but I doth thinkest we have more important thinks to worries about, no

It did not like thinkest but offered no alternatives. At this point all the words are spelt/spelled correctly but some are semantically wrong, and sneaking a bit of Middle English into the mix confuses things. English has adopted words from just about every other language, together will all the related spelling idiosyncrasies.

Can we agree that aggrievous/overstated/hyperbolic/extravagant* misuse of the language is wrong/bad/evil/wicked/sinful/iniquitous/reprehensible/erroneous/incorrect* and that a reasonable/judicious/fair/sober* effort/attempt/trial/endeavor/venture* is sufficient/enough/adequate/adequate/satisfactory*.

Imagine reading it aloud. It should read the way you would say it - politely - to the person next to you.

Andrew

* - Roget's Thesaurus offers a few more synonyms for those "grandiose" words.

[TrevorW]

I concur Andrew, in that one should always try and be polite, as if you were talking to someone next to you.

When in that tone, to me spelling and grammer are secondary, as long as the reader can comprehend the meaning and intent of your text.

Regards

Trevor

[Barrykgerdes]

Much of our language comes from the government of the day and the politicians in it. That will of course will now mean that Yes can now be interpreted as no and I said the same as I did not say.

Barry

[JimmyH155]

If I hear anybody say "an historic...." I will scream

[sasup (Stacey)]

I say if one pays more tax then most others make in a year, you can spell how ever the hell you want!!!!

[Octane (Humayun)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCHN3YPZv1g

H

[White Rabbit]

Whilst I've never been formally diagnosed with dyslexia, I strongly suspect I suffer from it. My spelling would be closer to that of an early primary school kid than that of an adult. (spell check has already picked up 6 spelling mistakes lol).
I particularly struggle with numbers, constantly writing/typing them back to front or in the wrong order. I spell check, a lot, as I''m fully aware of my inadequateness in this area, however, I work very long hours and sometimes I'll snatch a few seconds out of my day to post something so please accept my apologies if I don't have the time to correct my spelling.

If it offends you, I think you need to take a look at yourself and see what it is about bad spelling that annoys you so much, because lets be honest here, it's only spelling.

From the tone of some the posts in this thread, some people seem to be equating the ability to spell with intelligence....
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....s/tongue05.gif

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Originally Posted by White Rabbit

From the tone of some the posts in this thread, some people seem to be equating the ability to spell with intelligence....

It has nothing to do with lower intelligence.

Several (and not just 2 or 3, but quite a few) CEO's of major U.S. and British Companies and Corporations were found to be not only dyslexic, but often totally illiterate!

[bartman (Bart)]

Originally Posted by White Rabbit

If it offends you, I think you need to take a look at yourself and see what it is about bad spelling that annoys you so much, because lets be honest here, it's only spelling.

I really think that the ORIGINAL poster of this post did not have ANY intention of OFFENDING. He simply wanted to convey that " correct spelling is important" for certain situations......as he described.
Fair enough .... we can use google to find certain posts within IIS rather than using the IIS search.


I would like to quote post #25 to reinforce this....

by astro744:

"Hmm.. Touchy subject!

A typo is common and I make them all the time. The same typo repeated in a sentence or paragraph is no longer a typo but possibly a genuine sense that the word has been spelt correctly because that is how one has always spelled it and unless someone else tells one otherwise, one will never know the difference.-------. Forgive me though if you have already done so and still suffer. I meant no disrespect.

Any criticism offered here is constructive and I'm sure anyone with English as a second language would welcome such feedback. My country of origin is a non English speaking country but I now live here and although English was my least favorite subject in school I have always strived to improve my writing and speaking skills. If I'm not sure of a word, I'll look it up in a dictionary for both spelling and meaning.

My initial post was to merely ask people to take a little more time to correct significant spelling errors in both title and message body that would assist when searching through the forum. The reason I also say message body is that some titles are simply meaningless, like "Look at this", "Another question" etc. Significant words are those which directly refer to the topic of the thread.

Note I also mentioned in my initial post that I was not concerned about the poor use of grammar but this is from the standpoint that it generally will not affect a search whereas incorrect spelling will.

Thanks again for understanding. "

[KenNo2658 (Ken)]

Originally Posted by Paul Haese

Aahh this little bug bare!

My father and mother had a fairly ordinary education as were many of their time and yet their written skills are exemplary. Literacy was important once it does not seem so now.

Yeah, well, I'm one of those blokes who lives in one of them glass dongas. Some bludger telled me not to chuck rocks a while back!

So I'm not going to. Just going to suggest that Paul re-read his post a couple of times.

I will go out on a limb and say that the use of correct grammar and spelling is important. However, these skills should not be used as a measure of a persons intelligence, or abilities.

On another forum, I corresponded with a person whom I judged to be of lower intelligence, based purely on the wording of his posts. I then had the privilege of meeting him in person. A more intelligent and articulate person you could not hope to find!

Unfortunately, he was also dyslexic. A lesson learned.

So, to be a bit on the blunt side, I ain't gonna change the way I post to suit some toffee nosed bludgers. If ya' don't like what I write, don't read it!! And if some bloke can't spell or put his words together right, well, I'm gonna do my best to work out what he's trying to say, 'cause he might just be far smarter than me!!!

So, you lot can pick the heck out of this post if ya' wanta. Like I said, I live in one of those glass dongas!

Ken

[TrevorW]

So many things go through ones mind before transferring ones thoughts to a permanent medium. Will the words be of interest to anyone or will anyone even believe them?

Are you writing these words for your own benefit, will they really make a difference? You wonder will the words you have written even make sense, will they flow, will they sound plausible, will your words be written in an intelligent manner, with spelling and grammar that does not offend, alas you even lament that before they are written will they even be read.

Will the message you are trying to convey transcend the void between the medium in which it is published to those that read it, so that they may enter the mind of the person reading your words or in your vain attempt to carve your piece of history will that bridge never be crossed because of your inability to convey the message you so strongly desire to convey to the uneducated yes uneducated not ineducable.

Will you receive any feedback , if so what kind, if ridiculed, are you strong enough to endue the barbs of your critics and if applauded not so vain that you boast of your accolades.

All these doubts and so many more interfere with your ability to record your thoughts.