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astroron (Ron) · #41 16-01-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OICURMT

I have problems with the astrological community... can't tell you how many times I've stated that Astronomy is my hobby only to have someone tell me "Their Sign"... I immediately ask them for their birthday knowing I can probably confound and confuse them into a panic...

Since I'm not into any of this garbage, I carry this in my wallet for those special occasions. I love it when I meet an Ophiuchan...

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Capricorn   : Jan. 20 – Feb. 16
Aquarius    : Feb. 16 – March 11
Pisces      : March 11- April 18
Aries       : April 18- May 13
Taurus      : May 13- June 21
Gemini      : June 21- July 20
Cancer      : July 20- Aug. 10
Leo         : Aug. 10- Sept. 16
Virgo       : Sept. 16- Oct. 30
Libra       : Oct. 30- Nov. 23
Scorpio     : Nov. 23- Nov. 29
Ophiuchus   : Nov. 29- Dec. 17
Sagittarius : Dec. 17- Jan. 20

Sometimes someone will notices that a Scorpio has only an 7 day window, making them a rare breed. On those occasions, I'll strike up a conversation about Astronomy and constellation boundaries (hoping to convert them

)

I usually leave them after stating that I'm a Zymurgist...

Thanks I must print that out

Rob_K · #42 16-01-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OICURMT

I have problems with the astrological community... can't tell you how many times I've stated that Astronomy is my hobby only to have someone tell me "Their Sign"... I immediately ask them for their birthday knowing I can probably confound and confuse them into a panic...

Since I'm not into any of this garbage, I carry this in my wallet for those special occasions. I love it when I meet an Ophiuchan...

Thanks for nothing OICURMT, now I'm a boring Capricorn...

At least now I know why my horoscope never worked!

Cheers -

pgc hunter · #43 17-01-2011, 12:24 AM

lol I'm only 1 day away from being a capricorn. Looks like both my parents are now Aries.

OICURMT · #44 17-01-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_K

Thanks for nothing OICURMT, now I'm a boring Capricorn...

At least now I know why my horoscope never worked!

Cheers -

Too bad you aren't Ophiuchus, then you'll never have to read your horoscope again (as no paper I know of prints one for this "Zodiac") and you can get down to serious Astronomy...

astroron (Ron) · #45 17-01-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OICURMT

Too bad you aren't Ophiuchus, then you'll never have to read your horoscope again (as no paper I know of prints one for this "Zodiac") and you can get down to serious Astronomy...

I am an Ophiuchon

that_guy (Tony) · #46 17-01-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilW

My local newsagent always puts S&T magazines next to the astrology mags, despite my protests...

Your newsagency has S&T?!

ballaratdragons (Ken) · #47 17-01-2011, 02:09 AM

To save confusion by the twits, rather than saying you are an amateur astronomer just say you are a 'Telescoper', or 'into telescopes'.

Barrykgerdes · #48 17-01-2011, 06:27 AM

I don't care what the soothsayers say. I am an Australian
"Born and Bred".

The one thing that I "forecast" from the amount of silly topics and posts on the forum is that seeing must be quite poor and no one is out looking at the stars.

Barry

mill (Martin) · #49 17-01-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rat156

Name one.

Cheers
Stuart

Stuart you know as well as me that once a theory is proven, it becomes a fact

rat156 · #50 17-01-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mill

Stuart you know as well as me that once a theory is proven, it becomes a fact

Name one...

Cheers
Stuart

rat156 · #51 17-01-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

Lets test Stuarts theory

1) All Christians are fools becasue they believe in a miracle virgin birth and that the Universe was made in a week.

2) All Astrologers are fools because they believe our personalities and actions are determined by the location of objects in the heavens

Which of these statements would be moderated...?

Mike
just interested

Mike I have an answer.

I started another thread with the title some thing like "Top 100 Stupid (insert name of religion here) quotes" and a link to a website. Much the same as this thread was started. It was removed within minutes.

So it seems that there is a hierachy of beliefs which it is not OK to belittle, I have asked Mike for a clarification as to which beliefs we may not poke fun at. As yet I haven't received an answer.

Many of you may wonder why I'm defending a belief that I obviously don't believe in myself, well, I deplore double standards. I hate that established religion is held in such regard so as to make it immune from debate or critisism.

Cheers
Stuart

mithrandir (Andrew) · #52 17-01-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes

The one thing that I "forecast" from the amount of silly topics and posts on the forum is that seeing must be quite poor and no one is out looking at the stars.

That sounds like a rhetorical question.

Or is it suggesting that seeing is better a mere 10 Km west of here? If I had a solar telescope it might be different. For weeks, sunset and cloud and/or moon rise have coincided, except when it has been 24 hour cloud.

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Originally Posted by rat156

If you mean the "Name one" posts, then asking for examples of a statement held to be "fact" should not surprise.

Stuart, in my experience of people's behaviour, belief and facts have nothing to do with each other.

Andrew

dugnsuz (Doug) · #53 17-01-2011, 01:31 PM

Today, Astrology is just a bit of nincompoopery!!
Religion on the other hand can still get you killed.

Moderate the latter, ridicule the former!

Barrykgerdes · #54 17-01-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mithrandir

Or is it suggesting that seeing is better a mere 10 Km west of here? If I had a solar telescope it might be different. For weeks, sunset and cloud and/or moon rise have coincided, except when it has been 24 hour cloud.
Andrew

Since I closed down my observatory I do all my star gazing on the computer. I just had a look over your way. Sky's clear and the Suns out so better get yourself a solar scope

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In any case I saw the moon last night.

In answer to some of the other drivel.
Some people make a lot of money out of astrology
and
Some people make a lot of money out of religion
but
There is not much money made out of astronomy. Even those profiteers mentioned in other posts.

Who's to say they are wrong if they achieve their objects

Barry

xelasnave · #55 17-01-2011, 04:12 PM

So much has to do with accepting personal responsibility.
Many folk can not accept that perhaps they control their destiny.
My moods are unfortunately causes by me and not the "fact" that I was born under a particular star sign... I must and do accept what is on my plate is because of my actions...and such a view helps when analyzing a relationship break up because you can adjust your behavior rather than abdicating responsibility to things beyond your control.

Someone once pointed out to me that my views on gravity were morospophic...(this is where you grasp at any detail in support of your belief) and although they were not correct in my case

I can see how this could apply to others

Remember never lose the ability to laugh at yourself

.

However morosophic behavior is evident everywhere ... from big bangers to astrologers.

All one can do is listen to others and not burr up if what they believe does not fit your Universe. But when they abdicate personal responsibility I feel that is a cop out and they alone are the losers.

Anyways it looks as though I am in for a good week my tarot card reader mate told me so

alex

mill (Martin) · #56 17-01-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rat156

Name one...

Cheers
Stuart

Ok Stuart i will then "All of them are true or a fact in the scientific world".

This is a definition of the word theory.

Theory: A theory is what one or more hypotheses become once they have been verified and accepted to be true. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers.

http://wilstar.com/theories.htm

NeilW · #57 17-01-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilW http://www.iceinspace.com.au/vbiis/i...s/viewpost.gif
My local newsagent always puts S&T magazines next to the astrology mags, despite my protests...

Your newsagency has S&T?!

I should have said AS&T (Australian Sky & Telescope).

Peter Ward · #58 17-01-2011, 05:43 PM

PT Barnum (or Barnum & Bailey's Circus ) summed it (while not specifically refering to Astrology, he did despise "humbugs" in general ) up pretty well about 150 years ago:

"We've got a little something for everyone..." and

"there's a sucker born every minute"

barx1963 (Malcolm) · #59 17-01-2011, 05:46 PM

As I understand it "facts" from a science point of view are verifiable statements about the world/universe. For example "water molecules consist of 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom" or "gravity is always attractive" or "the distance from the earth to the moon is x kms".

A theory is a model or an approximation of the world/universe that makes useful predictions. It is falsifiable in the sense that if a new fact emerges that cannot be explained by the existing theory, the theory needs to be changed or even discarded. Notice that a model is only ever regarded as an approximation, while it may often be startling accurate, it can still be regarded as applicable in a limited set of circumstances. Hence Newtons theories on motion and gravitation breakdown once speeds close to that of light come into play, but work with amazing precision at other speeds. Relativity breaks down at the extreme microscopic scale where quantum effects occur, but at the large scale is incredibly useful and accurate.

Scientists take sets of "facts" to construct models, which have explanatory and predictive power, but because these models are only ever approximations and are falsifiable, I don't think you can give them the status of facts.

Malcolm

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #60 17-01-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snowyskiesau

IAren't I a a stinker?

I know your avatar is

I just tried to kill it again