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Old 11-01-2011, 06:41 PM
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Yep, Good idea ken, stock up mate. Just watched it too Ken and we have heavy rain due for the next three days with the flood warnings.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:42 PM
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I've just remembered that Mark Hodson (mch62) lives at Glenore Grove. I hope he and his family are ok.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:08 PM
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The loss of life is tragic.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
Here's a screen capture from channel 7 news on the Toowoomba floods.

Could not but notice the missing wheels, mudguards and plates and NO debris.
Looks like a car wreckers to me. So much for news integrity.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:20 PM
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Its not a care wreckers. Its the result of the Toowoomba flash flood. If you want to see the full thing go back a page and click on Mikes link
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:24 PM
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Well ... yes and no. Rain of this intensity is certainly natural but not as 'freaky' (uncommon) as you might think.

I don't know, when rain is falling at rates of up to 3" per hour for hours on end over such a vast area, that's pretty bloody "freaky" to me.
I assure you that the Authorities are NOT exaggerating this event.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:32 PM
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Its not a care wreckers. Its the result of the Toowoomba flash flood. If you want to see the full thing go back a page and click on Mikes link
Yes I saw that video. It is not the same as the one on channel 7
http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/natio...ains-isolated/
Devastating as it is, the water did not remove the number plates mudguards and wheels.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:35 PM
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my apologise Colin, I should have checked you post more carefully.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:40 PM
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He means Ch7 is using stock footage of a car wreckers.

Paul, do you have Marks phone number? I lost it.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:41 PM
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fair nuff, post removed.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:42 PM
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re floods

Have to agree with jjj's comment,I too felt Astotravlers comment a little

insensitive.The rain falling in Toowoomba 150 mm in just under a hour,on top

of ground that was previously at saturation point,according to the weather

guru's gave the effect of 300 mm in the same time.I'd call that a freak event.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:13 PM
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We're flooded in at the upper Logan river. Rathdowney and round mountain are above major flood levels so those areas downstream, Jimboomba and Logan, are in for it in the next 2 days. Here's a video i took this afternoon at 4.30pm. The second part of the first video, logan river, was 1 metro over about 1 hour after i took this video. Boonah is as usual cutoff so there are no roads that divert.

YouTube video - upper logan Flooding

And here's our backyard! YouTube video - my backyard


We're stocked up and high and dry

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:23 PM
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We're flooded in at the upper Logan river. Rathdowney and round mountain are above major flood levels so those areas downstream, Jimboomba and Logan, are in for it in the next 2 days. Here's a video i took this afternoon at 4.30pm. The second part of the first video, logan river, was 1 metro over about 1 hour after i took this video. Boonah is as usual cutoff so there are no roads that divert.

YouTube video - upper logan Flooding

And here's our backyard! YouTube video - my backyard


We're stocked up and high and dry

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which is your video?
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:26 PM
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I filmed both

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:30 PM
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I filmed both

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so you are whitelightbringer ?
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:33 PM
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Ooops, bad links. Sorry! Try them again

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:38 PM
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thanks - certainly shows some different perspectives
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:38 PM
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Although I was 14 during the 1974 flood, I do not have a lot of memories of the devastation it brought as I lived in an area that was not flooded, we did not have a car to go ghouling at other peoples misery, and our view of it was limited to 4 tv stations. All the same since that time I have spoken to people that were affected and working for the water board I grew to understand somewhat of the events. I did not expect to ever be a witness to such an event as the flooding of Brisbane.

That last statement was a bit silly wasn't it? History has shown that flooding of river systems is inevitable. In fact, the oft quoted 1974 floods were not even near the largest recorded flood in Brisbane... that title belongs to the 1893 flood, which rose to 10' (about 3m?) higher than the 1890 flood which in turn was 18' (close to 6m?) higher than the 1887 flood. Our short lives don't allow us the perspective to see that these events are frequent (on a broader timescale... we understand that as astronomers, don't we?) and very much natural.

While manipulating our environment must contribute to the the devastation... just think of all those creeks and streams that have become fixed in their courses and not allowed to meander as they have done for millions of years... the fact remains that such devastation has occurred even before major deforestation, agriculture and urbanisation, and will occur again (its only natural). I don't think that AstralTraveller was being insensitive, he was just pointing out that just because we have not experienced something it is not unnatural or freakish.

I hope that everybody; IISers, their families, friends, people they pass in the street, even Trekkies and cat people are kept safe and receive help if they need it.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:48 PM
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I've just come across a reference that the 1841 flood was 70mm higher than the 1893 flood.

Some interesting reading:
http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/ql..._history.shtml
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:51 PM
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G'day Sam, Looks like Jimboomba will be cut off again, the last time that was cut off (a couple of years ago) there was a guy fishing there, and he ended up pulling out a 10KG+ Carp. I can't believe how much rain we are getting, I'm guessing Maroon and Moogerah dams are overflowing as well.
Be smart people, and stay alive, don't cross anything that has fast moving water over it. Too many have lost their lives already.
That is an interesting read, Tony. Something tells me that it isn't over yet. We are yet to see a cyclone this way this year.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:08 AM
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Wivenhoe Dam is presently at about 175% of its water storage (supply) capacity, and about 80% of its total design capacity, which includes flood mitigation. Releases at present are 236,000 megalitres per day, which equates to 2.73ML per second. That means that they are releasing Brisbane's total daily consumption every 30 seconds or so.

...

To see the data on the dams, Google "SEQWater", or visit these links

http://www.seqwater.com.au/public/home
http://www.seqwater.com.au/public/ca...s/wivenhoe-dam
Latest update has the following information: "Releases will be reduced slowly throughout the night to track dropping levels. First reduction has been to around 610,000 megalitres per day."

The amount of water that they are releasing is quite astounding, almost difficult to comprehend. That is almost 1/3 of Sydney's Warragamba dam capacity being released every day at that rate.
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